LFR canceled for Dragon Soul

Answer this question.

How would have LFR impacted GDKPs?

There is no impact of LFR on GDKP raids. Because LFR has its own separate lockout, meaning it does not share lockouts with Normal or Heroic raids. Therefore, players can still participate in GDKP raids without any interference from LFR

GDKPs ONLY run Normal or Heroic modes, which would remain unaffected IF LFR were to be introduced. LFR players would still be able to participate in these modes and enjoy GDKP raids without any disruption.

In essence, the addition of LFR would not impact the existing GDKP raid structure, as they operate independently with separate lockouts.

LFR is unnecessary and unlikely to be released in Cataclysm, especially considering that the developers are introducing LFR loot through an alternative method.

Every comment you make pertains to GDKPs and your dislike of them.

What negative experiences have you had with GDKPs that lead you to express such strong dislike and attribute all problems to them?

Even on topics such as this you bring up GDKPs.

Much like when a new restaurant opens up down the street, it takes business away from the current ones. Quite a few people in here have already expressed they only have x number of hours per week to play.
If they can jump in and play LFR w/o much effort on a schedule that suits them and they donā€™t have to ā€œpay goldā€ to either join, bid on gear or get some better gear, that will be the avenue Iā€™d estimate a lot will pickā€¦

Further there are people who are just want some time to kill a boss and LFR gives them an easier way to do thisā€¦ You already know these answers - it has been stated before; you just choose not to listen because it does not agree w/your narrative.

Can LFR and GDKP co-exist - of course they can but it has the potential to impact your GDKPs and this I can only believe is what you are worried about.

You on one hand protest and donā€™t want LFRs and on the other hand seemly donā€™t care if LFR is added. This is 100% confusing. You push out smoke and mirrors how you donā€™t want it but in the end we all know it has to do w/GDKPs.

Here is where you are wrong. I donā€™t dislike them. I never stated I dislike them. I really donā€™t care either way to be honestā€¦much like LFR. Iā€™m neither for nor against.

What I do dislike are people who hide behind them pretending they are some serious raider but in reality, they were carried and/or bought their gear.

I did one GDKP and it was ok. It was not my thing. People participating in the same raid all whom should be able to roll on the same gear but it felt as though the people with lots of gold could buy what they wanted, and those who didnā€™t have any could not.

I didnā€™t need any gear but a guildmate asked me to attend and I could ā€œmake moneyā€. Though I did walk away with gold (canā€™t remember how much but it was decent chunk) it felt dirty and wrong. The only thing negative about it was it was not my thing. I didnā€™t participate in another one, but I also didnā€™t swamp the forums about they should not be allowed.

Only on topics where GDKP (your real motive) pertains. There are hundreds of topics I reply on where GDKP is never mentioned.

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itā€™s important to recognize that LFR is not being released in Cataclysm Classic. As such, these concerns are currently moot.

Historically, similar changes have been made to the game without significantly impacting traditional raid formats like GDKP. Players have continued to enjoy these formats without any major disruptions. The same would likely be true even if LFR were introduced.

Therefore, the argument that LFR would negatively impact GDKP runs or other traditional raid formats doesnā€™t hold much weight in this context.

While you claim to neither dislike nor like GDKPs, itā€™s worth noting that your frequent mention and negative characterization of them suggests otherwise. Your repeated comments about players being ā€œcarriedā€ or ā€œbuying their gearā€ in GDKP runs indicate a clear disdain for the system and those who participate in it.

Itā€™s important to recognize that different players have different experiences and preferences when it comes to raid formats. While your experience with the GDKP run may not have been enjoyable for you personally, it does not inherently mean that the system is flawed or ā€œdirty.ā€ GDKP runs offer a different dynamic where players who have accumulated gold can bid on gear, and those who participate still walk away with a share of the gold pot, which can be a rewarding experience for many.

Continually bringing up your negative experience suggests a stronger aversion to the system than youā€™re admitting.

Only on topics where GDKP (your real motive) pertains. There are hundreds of topics I reply on where GDKP is never mentioned.

There was no mention of GDKPs in this post until you introduced the topic. This is yet another instance of your dislike for GDKPs.

At this point ā€“ I didnā€™t read any of this. It is tripe at best and really there is no need to.

Once you start with the phrase ā€œItā€™s important to recognizeā€¦ā€ ā€“ All it says is youā€™ve run it through an AI bot (ChatGPT or similar) to help support your narrative, it only goes to further reduce your credibility. Honestly, you lost that a long time ago on this topic you try so hard to defend.

Youā€™d get more creditability back if youā€™d stop w/ChatGPT responses and just own up to the fact you donā€™t want your GDKPā€™s interrupted with LFR and that is the real reason.

It is mention because that is the real reason you donā€™t want LFR and youā€™re happy it has been put on hold. I only mention items that are relevant to the conversation and this one isā€¦ Iā€™ll refresh this for you :point_down: :point_down: :point_down:

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Itā€™s a reason heā€™s against lfr. Another is he doesnā€™t want to feel compelled to do LFR. His lacking self control apparently means no one should have the choice. And the third reason isā€¦heā€™s just a toxic gatekeeper who canā€™t stand ā€˜ordinary playersā€™ getting tier gear.

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That is a bit strange, and you are probably right. I donā€™t understand how anyone feels compelled to do anything in game.

This is for sure obvious. I can only guess the reason that players like this want to block others from enjoying the game, but they are only guesses (though Iā€™m sure pretty spot on).

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i realy hope they will bring lfr later in the ds life time so i can get my army gear with out doing normal im to lazy to find raids for all of them

The last reason is really where the hypocrisy comes from since has has no problem with players paying to get carried and buy gear in GDKPs.

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And, who ironically has to buy the tier gear because he does worse than an ordinary player otherwise.

Edit; Just mentioning, I typed this before reading the most recent reply

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Did you not see the post that said LFR gear was being added in an alternative route? Which nullifies the need for it.

Says who? Your chat gpt bot?

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Iā€™m guessing they add it to the heroic+ vendor.

This effectively nullifies any need for LFR in Cata. Why would Blizzard add LFR if the gear is going to be obtainable through another means?

Have you not noticed how much Blizzard has prioritized Cata Classic? Do you really think that since they are adding LFR gear through an alternative route, the last three developers running on their hamster wheels will work even harder to fix something that does not need to be added to the game until Mists of Pandaria? That is very doubtful.

I can certainly see that happening, or they will add LFR gear to the new inferno dungeons and have Firelands gear available from the vendor, or vice versa.

Do you know what the word ā€œpauseā€ means? I think you had better ask your Chat gpt bot for a definition.

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They used the word ā€œpauseā€ because they are temporarily stopping the work. This means they will likely resume it later, possibly for the MoP release. Since LFR gear is going to be added through an alternative method, there is no real reason for LFR to be released in Cataclysm. If you consider this logically, this makes sense.

Unless they get the LFR for DS working, in which case they will not need to use the fallback option for obtaining the gear.

Youā€™re working really hard to turn technical issues delaying LFR into a ā€œItā€™s not happeningā€ while using the current stop gap for obtaining the LFR gear.

I suggest waiting for a hard ā€œwe arenā€™t going be able to fix itā€ post before pushing hypothesis as you are.

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NO, good move Blizz.

this not elitist group, this for evade the copium and save social experience in the MMO.

Because the other means is likely to be less fun than lfr. I get how this concept keeps confusing you so to help you understand.

fun: providing entertainment, amusement, or enjoyment

I get you donā€™t understand how this applies to wow because you play the game to get gear. But some people play the game for fun, the gear is just a bonus.

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LFR is not enjoyable, nor are H+ dungeons. However, if I had to choose between grinding LFR with randoms who AFK, auto-attack, and die to basic boss mechanics, or doing a guild run in an H+ dungeon, I would rather do the dungeons.

To people like him nothing matters but gear.
ā€œThereā€™s no reason for LFR with getting the gear elsewhere!ā€

Maybe some people gasp enjoy it? Itā€™s fun. It lets them experience the raid content. The gear is only part of the appeal.

Thatā€™s literally beyond the comprehension of people like him who are incapable of imagining and reasoning beyond their own personal desires.

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