Joined a guild group as a tank, healer pulls everything and doesnt heal anyone including me. i die because of his non-heals. i initiate vote kick, and it fails obviously.
instead I get kicked out and get deserter debuff.
not a big deal, except it is absurd.
report healer for grief
i left the group didnt know that i could report these incidences.
is it possible to retroactively report them? should I open a ticket or something?
no unfortunately
Unless they communicated, no, not really.
Game really needs a âRecently Grouped Withâ tab.
Thereâs also nothing to report.
Sucks that you got into a bad group, but no one broke any rules.
Griefing is a reportable offense.
Getting kicked isnât griefing and thereâs nothing Blizzard would do about it
trying to kick someone in a group full of their guild members is always a bad idea, would of been better off just dropping and finding a new group after debuff wore off if their guildâs not keeping them in check. Guild groups doing this kinda thing to pugs is nothing new just been maybe less frequent in the past. I mean situations like you join a group hoping for loot only to be skipped or denied loot for their guildmate who canât even use it and probably means to sell or DE the item is what weâve had to deal with before. Not kind but nobody said everyone in this game are nice people sad to say
Mass pulling, refusing to heal and then kicking the tank when they die qualifies as griefing.
Read the COC.
All that is reportable, but the kick itself is not.
Hindering progress is an easy report though.
These âI got kickedâ threads just keep piling up.
Def need a sub forum so yâall can get together and group hug and stuff.
I advocate for two megathreads:
âI got kickedâ
âI lost a loot rollâ
I think that will quarter the amount of threads that pop up.
Iâm surprised mods havenât moved all the nonsense together.
Iâd argue it matters. Itâs one thing if someoneâs being a dick, itâs something else entirely when theyâre being a dick and abusing game systems to make other peopleâs experience worse.
Getting kicked isnât a reportable offense but GMâs should be empowered to consider kick abuse when reviewing a personâs account.
Neither of those are things
Unfortunately we canât prove if it was abuse.
Lately all of these threads have been completely false and its 100% lack of accountability on the poster.
But if it was genuine bullying/griefing, sure. Report away. But when you have someone quite literally stream themselves being the tank and being the problem. Get kicked. Then go out of their way to pm and report each party memberâŚ
I donât trust these posts. At all.
It doesnât matter what kind of arguments you make, because you are just plainly wrong about all of this. A player not playing their role that they queued for may be a reportable offense, usually it is but whether that can be proven to be the case (someone refusing to play their role) is a lot more difficult. But yes, do report 'em for that and then a GM determines whether it was or wasnât a reportable offense.
HoweverâŚ
Per definition, there is no such thing as âkick abuseâ in WoW. Nor are GMs âempoweredâ to do anything other than what exists within their guidelines, and folks kicking other players is entirely allowed.
It is a democratic process where a majority rule determines the results, or supermajority if thereâs a premade group involved in the voting process of it. Per definition, you canât âabuseâ someone by initiating a vote or by voting to kick someone in WoW.
Iâll admit itâs not common but in 10 years of WoW I can say Iâve had 2 or 3 groups where it was clear that the party was mostly a premade who were âmaking their own fun.â Which mostly involved yelling slurs, having the partyâs two hunters misdirect onto me (read: Not the tank) and then kicking me when I got killed.
Rules lawyers tend to be the ones who get banned from the game because they think they can behave poorly as long as it doesnât violate the letter of the law.
The part of the Code of Conduct youâre looking for is the âBehaviorâ section. If you actively detract from someone elseâs enjoyment of the game, youâre violating the code of conduct. If a GM brings up your account and discovers that not only do you vote kick, but that you bring up vote kicks more often than 99% of the player base, that warrants different treatment than someone who got reported for initiating a vote kick.
They tried to kick the healer first though? So the healer just responded in kind. Doesnât seem like kick abuse to me.