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In 2006, when I first came to the game, there was no LFG/LFD/LFR/CRZ. Your realm was your home. Its inhabitants were our friends. You had to advertise in cities to find players to run Dungeons, Heroics, and Raids. There was no queue. If you were super lucky, you got invited to a large and active guild filled with other gamers who would drop what they were doing for a run.

Now, all we see are complaints, and they are the poorest of reasons. You can literally sit in the city, queue for anything, and be taken straight into the Dungeon/Raid/BG/etc. No more LF help. No more flying to a meeting stone to summon people. No more hearthing back to town to find a replacement if someone needed to go.

We made friends. We relied on each other. Furthermore, we were accountable for our actions, or risked being blacklisted on our own realm for any sort of end game content, forcing some people to pay for a realm transfer, or worse, quit. We didn’t beat our chests and put others down. We did not act like jerks for our own amusement. Not only that, but we were gamers, and we had each other’s backs.

Fast-forward 20 years. Everything is different. Now things are handed to us on a platter. But some folks are somehow inconvenienced by the existence of others. Some of us cannot see past our own world, and tend to dismiss or shut down opposing opinions and viewpoints. Is this really the legacy we are leaving on this game? We’ve been without mounts til lvl 40. We’ve gone without good gear for weeks on end. We had no vault, no flying, no transmog. Flight paths were ONE per zone.

It’s not just nostalgia. It’s loss. The game is vastly superior to where it once started, but the players have changed
 at least most of them, and not for the better. I don’t want to go back to Classic. I don’t want to remove all of the QoL changes we’ve been given. I just want to know, where are the gamers who support other gamers because they are in this together? You can ignore my ramblings. You can add to them if you like. I fully expect to get flamed for this wall of text. I also suspect those who have changed, and not for the better, will make themselves known.

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Tbf, you only get teleported at the bare minimum of content.

And does anyone actually MISS hearthing to get a replacement?

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No, I simply miss that folks would stick with the group to avoid having to hearth and get a replacement vs bailing at the first hint of trouble.

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it’s not the action itself. It’s the fundamental idea behind it. We stuck by one another because we didn’t wanna let another gamer down. And if somebody absolutely had to go, we understood. We didn’t flame them or troll them for it.

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i mean, i still see that today, and i saw jerk behavoir in 2004

it depends on who you decide to play with, i barely ever see jerks still

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Guilds and communities :slight_smile:

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there are always going to be jerks in this game. That’s not the point. The point was accountability and self-respect. Those of us who chose to be a part of the community did so because we were gamers and we had respect for other people. now because there’s no accountability people just do as they please and others have to tolerate it. I don’t miss the way the game used to be. I miss the way people used to be held accountable.

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Really don’t see much different in the community between then and now /shrug

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On Area 52 we definitely had a channel for LFM. Used it all the time back in TBC. A lot of the stuff mentioned is nostalgia, but I have to agree with this:

Bad apples will always exist.

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Did you realize that you can go still play Classic WoW if you want to?

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if you had actually read my post, you never would’ve made this one

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Hrm I wasn’t there for the original but I’ve been playing MMORPGs for basically my life.

There was a time when not just WoW but MMORPGs were kinda a replacement for online social interaction so you would kinda get to ‘know the names’ of people both good and bad. WoW included so people would know to avoid bad actors (and they could be ‘shunned). My childhood MMO Grand Fantasia is the same way.

I definitely accept that you’re right on that part. Everything else in terms of nostalgic aspects you can find the good in Warcraft communities and guilds. It’s just largely over discord rather than I game which is a shift in media.

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Good communities still exist in guilds!!!

I know it can take some time to find one that resonates with somebody so much so they feel welcomed and involved with activities they enjoy. That you log in and are greeted by friends who want to play and support each other. It’s something that you have to find in the game.

This character I made on stormrage at the end of first season and had quite a few auto invites from guilds. I haven’t really ran into a guild that way that was really tight knit tho. If you watch in trade chat you might have better luck with those.

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Okay enjoy your lfr experience ?

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Wut? Are you good?

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Saw that guy posting before. He doesn’t make sense often

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Sounds like gate keeping to ask that.

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We have replaced a lot of the human interactions for convenience reasons. It was inevitable though because the game has changed, we have changed, and our world has changed.

It was certainly more “pure” back then. But, I don’t think that necessarily means WOW and the community are terrible right now. It is simply different. Everything has pros and cons.

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20 years is long enough for many things to change.

We now have sharding, cross realm stuff, so your realm rep isn’t a thing anymore.

You can be a total donkey and you’ll still have no issue getting into groups, back then the bad actors got left out in the rain.

I miss it too tbh.

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:man_shrugging:

I was in a guild lol.