Leveled my Tailoring into a corner. Can't advance. I shouldn't have been able to do this

So I leveled my Tailoring to 60 (I could go to 65 but there’s no point now).
I didn’t look over all the specializations meticulously and also thought there would be purchasable patterns to keep me going.
Because of this I ended up taking all specializations that do NOT give patterns. And now I can’t work towards a pattern-giving specialization because, oops, I need to be level 75 skill to get another specialization.
So I don’t need knowledge, just to be clear. Sometimes people think that’s the case.
I need to be able to access new specializations which I cannot do without new patterns. I can’t get new patterns without new specializations.
I can’t get new specializations without leveling my skill to 75. Which is not possible without new patterns…
You see the vicious cycle.
Sorry if I’m being repetitive but a lot of people don’t seem to understand just what is going on.
What’s worse is now I’m told I can’t unlearn/relearn to start over. The game remembers my specializations. So I TOTALLY BORKED tailoring on this character. Can’t level anymore. It’s impossible to do with how I leveled. This shouldn’t be possible to do.
Should be fixed.

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There are patterns you can get that will allow you to go from 50-100, even without unlocking a third specialization, namely Amice of the Blue (from the last bosses of Al’gethar academy and Azure vault), Azureweave Slippers (from Valdrakken Accord 14), Blue Dragon Soles (from bosses in Vault of the Incarnates), and Infurious Binding of Gesticulation (from air drops in war mode, or big boy win chests from arenas/BGs).

Hm, OK to say nothing of having to rely on RNG, it’s not impossible but each one of those recipes takes a Spark of Ingenuity to produce. Not exactly easy to come by. So instead of totally borked I’m just mostly borked. It would take a long time to get my Tailoring going again. 10 Sparks of Ingenuity worth of time.
Thanks for trying though.
I still contend that this isn’t well thought out. There should be some sort of recipe unlock through any specialization. Or recipes available for purchase that don’t take Sparks of Ingenuity. Or a respec. Any one of those things fixes this problem.

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I did the exact same thing with tailoring and enchanting. I am now making patterns that have a low chance to skill me up and getting 1-2 points a week. I really would have appreciated blizzard clarifying the repercussions of picking one spec over the other before I pigeonholed myself into bad specialization.

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That’s what the work order system is for – though odds are you’ll probably have to make posts in trade chat since so few people seem to actually be posting crafting orders themselves… and those that are posted have requirements that are obscenely high for just being two weeks and one day into the expansion… (i.e. [insert faction here] renown 20-29).

I think it is also worth noting blizzard clearly realises there are issues as todays hotfixes have started liberalising the thing by dropping the number of craft orders fulfilled for the weekly quest and having crafts involving sparks give 3 skill rather than 1.

I expect to see another batch of these changes in a week or two as more and more crafters hit the wall at 60 because of lack of spark crafts. However in a tonedeaf move they also savaged the chance of recrafts giving skill, -60% chance!

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You’re not totally screwd. Just get a single spark recipe to make for yourself (either your tailoring character or an alt that you can work order yourself with) then you can keep recrafting it until you get enough skill. If you want to save on resources you can also stop at 73 and wait until Darkmoon Faire comes around next month and use that to get the next +2 skill you need.

Except no one will want to use their Spark on a rando that can’t give them max quality.

The whole system is fried.
It was so obvious that it was going to end up in a mess solely because the “quality” system doesn’t work when people only want the highest quality and nothing less.

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The rehaul of the system is a good idea, poorly executed.

I think they need to buff ways of getting points. A lot of us are stuck on our first specc and having issues progressing. We know that we can eventually get to other specs and max it but now that I’m like 80 points in a spec and knowledge gaining is so slowly.

I honestly feel like I made a mistake in every profession but Scrip in which ink sells well.
Potion and Prospecting/Glasswears for the other two was a mistake. I can’t make good potions much because I blow up and mats are more than the product, which is almost everything so it’s a loss almost everywhere. It’s raid opening and I can’t capitalise profit unless I exploited. It’s a mess lol.

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I think they missed the boat in a few ways:

  • Vastly overestimated players’ willingness to use the order system
  • Restricted the ability to make things MUCH too heavily
  • Didn’t add enough non-spec skillup recipes to fill in gaps in crafting orders on low-pop servers (this isn’t a surprise because they screwed low pop servers with the legendary system in Shadowlands and never once acknowledged it OR fixed it, so, you know, you get what you pay for etc).

I’m hopeful they’re fix this in a way which helps everyone, which is to say, putting in skill-up recipes which are not cripplingly expensive to make and not Renown locked nor tied to a spec. This needs to happen pretty much across the board.

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Order System is not great.
Knowledge points (profession talents trees) are just bad.

Both Tailoring and Enchanting can be holed into a state of a point of no progression or a point of progression via only highest tier materials.

no one is going to want his low quality crafts. By the time he can make some 2*, a lot of people will have them at 5*

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Almost every profession requires sparks of ingenuity to level up. The new profession system is based around the design that only people intended to level are those who devote most of their playing time to spamming /trade all day long looking for others to craft gear for

Yes it sucks badly but you’re in the same position as everyone else, it’s not some special quirk of tailoring

I am not sure that this is a wise design in a game where the vast majority of the playerbase is casual and used to professions at least being a nice little bit of completionism that helps them craft the odd useful item.

No, because that requires the threadwhatever specialization which you can’t get until 75, unless you want to drop 8000g for EACH thread, and even then AoB is a yellow increase, not orange.

Oh no… This happened to me during Shadowlands where I couldn’t progress my skill level and it made me super frustrated to the point I just stopped playing.

AOB is a +3 orange skillup for me at 77 skill, I dunno why it’s showing as yellow to you.

I’m at 65+12, so I don’t know what math they use for it, but it’s yellow for me (just checked).

…how did you just check when all of the servers are down?

When I woke up this morning…