Like… y’all are wild. Keep it up though. Let them know how you’re gonna break their rules so it’s easier for them to find you =D
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umm technically if it is circumvention then it isn’t against the rules until Blizzard changes the rules to include it.
tell them that when you get banned and then post screenshots lol
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I’m not gonna get banned. Haven’t done a GDKP in SoD ever. But I think it is a good system that people should have the ability to do if they so choose. So I’m not gonna get banned for trying to circumvent the ban on them because My Guild needs my raid ready characters for raids.
So what is Blizzard gonna ban me for? Following the rules? I mean I know they have the right to , but it would be a mistake on their part to ban customers in good standing who have done nothing wrong.
Oh. So you’re just one of those. Got it.
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Nah it’s a bad system that goes against the core design of the game. Bads who can’t commit don’t deserve gear. And your bis is now crafted and from solo wpvp kekw.
Circumventing is totally tos violation lol. We’ll be out infiltrating your discords.
If you want your characters raid ready maybe you shouldn’t have spread yourself too thin, and maybe got wsg exalted on one or two of them. No one had 8 max level alts in vanilla wow lol.
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It is like you didn’t even read what I wrote.
I don’t do GDKPs. I however believe it is a good system for people who (unlike me) don’t have a steady schedule and so can’t raid with a guild every 3 days.
yes I recognize the RMT issue with it, but I believe it is a minority of players (if it was the majority then the stories about the pot sizes and average bids that have come out would be much higher since you would get multiple gold buyers in the same run and they would get into bid wars constantly) However you do not ba na legitimate form of play because SOME (a minority) of players choose to break the ToS, you simply ban those players.
My prediction for phase 2 is an increase in gold buying and bots to support the gold sellers. The reason I believe this is because the increased cost of higher level stuff. Yeah GDKP won’t exist but it will be replaced by buying level 40 mounts, power leveling professions, getting BoEs like pendulum of doom off AH, etc… all existed in phase 1 true, but it was much cheaper for eveything, so now people are going o have to buy more gold to cover the expenses.
Nobody is gonna buy gold to do that? Look if a person was buying gold to do gdkps, it was only because they were too lazy to farm gold to do GDKPs in which case they will continue to be lazy and not farm for the needed gold for other aspects of play and simply swipe.
In short I think the ban is targeting the wrong targets. The loot system isn’t the problem, it is the bad actors within the loot system that are. Ban the gold buyer, gold sellers and bots and nobody will care about GDKPs anymore.
How will gold buying increase of bis is bop, and from solo wpvp? Buying gold won’t help anyone there.
In the context of a guild environment, where gear is the social currency, yes this is correct.
In the context of the open game, where your guild doesn’t mean sweet FA to anyone outside of your guild, who are you to determine who is a ‘bad’ who doesn’t ‘deserve gear’ just because they aren’t able to lock down X number of hours at a specific time each week?
I’ve met many high performing players who can only do PUGs, they take the game more seriously than your average guild dad raider, mostly because they have to make the most of the time they do get to play the game.
It’s almost like time commitment doesn’t determine attitude…
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Those kinds of puggeras tend to make names for themselves, and end up on many people’s friends list. It’s not an issue, nor a problem to say after a run, “hey this was fun add me so we can do more down the road.”
NGL that’s the best way to join a guild, is being a good pugger, and saying after the raid "hey you guys are cool , doyou need X class? "
What if those puggers preferred the GDKP system? I know I did for classic/tbc/wotlk classic, it allowed me to target focus on specific upgrades I needed on my very geared chars, without having to out roll 5 other people.
I’d usually get a priority invite as a reliable and vocal tank / raid assist, but I still have my own clear goals and preferences. Choice of loot system says nothing about a players capability lol.
It’s a shame I am losing that agency in SoD.
sure, this works, assuming the pugger is actually looking for a guild in the first place…
They can get on people’s friends list. Or you know keep sharing loot with everyone’s alts in rando pugs.
I think you fundamentally misunderstand that the core issue is scheduling availability.
Networking is not super helpful if you are not online or unlocked for 90% of the raids.
And I’m trying to tell you, that’s not my problem. Gdkp is banned, if you can’t buy loot, running with the same 10 characters is now the overwhelmingly best way to get gear. Nothing will change that other than personal loot. That’s not even in retail because it sucks too
You either make time, or have statistically worse chances at loot.
Banning GDKP doesn’t suddenly resolve scheduling issues for these players, they now just need to deal with alternate PUG loot systems. Many (like me) will just have to put in the extra effort to form my own HR raids, or join SR raids.
MS>OS can go to hell, having zero agency over the result feels so bad.
It solved them not having better chances at loot than guilds. Nothing will solve the scheduling issue. You gotta deal with it. No one is entitled to bis. Sorry it a lot of work, and difficult tho.
Not sure if you’ve seen Era or WOTLK Classic but the average bids and pot sizes are ridiculous.
I was in a relatively small gdkp and had stopped going before ICC but kept up with their server. Shadowmourne was still going for well over a million gold.
The biggest issue is it makes one the easiest form of money laundering to have ever been seen.
If you’re an innocent player in a gdkp who gets a large amount of gold from a gold buyer, even if that gold buyer gets banned, they aren’t going to ban you or take your gold away. Now your gold is completely clean and good to go.
Nobody (at least sane people) has ever claimed gdkp is the only reason people buy gold. But it is the reason people buy a lot of gold.
WoW has a cost in general as you mentioned, mounts, boes, etc. But those are all much lower than the demand gdkp has.
There will never be 0 RMT, but less RMT is better than all of it.
No worries, I will definitely deal with it, but acting like the solution is ‘just join a guild bro’ is unhelpful at best and disingenuous at worst. There is a reason most of these players are not already in a guild.
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It’s nicer than the truth, which is personal issue. I’d rather not be that aggro lol.
I’ve been there tho, there’s been whole expansions where I was like well I can’t try hard raid, thank God for pvp gear.