I am going to be completely honest, as a member of the community and a forum frequenter… Moderation feels like its in a really bad place right now AND the Trust System really shows that.
I personally know several people who have been reported and suspended for the most absurd things (not going into details as discussing specific moderation is against the rules as well as privacy and all that) As someone who dips his toes into many a WoW community I have seen people talk about their suspensions and what the suspension emails quoted for the reasoning. Each time I have told them to contest it as well.
Meanwhile, on top of that, these forums have a really serious issue with false reporting right now and, from my perspective, it honestly feels like little is being done on that front. At least nothing that seems to feel effective in deterring it from continuing.
So pair those points with the trust system and the fact that getting a suspension locks you out of Trust Level 3 forever… dude…
Like, a Trust System is something I do like but I feel that with the current level of moderation on the forums makes it something that is easily stripped from people who do not deserve to lose the option forever all the while people who don’t care about the trust system at all are getting away with abusing the flagging system seemingly to no end.
I think, until moderation improves substantially, there should be a way to earn back the ability to qualify for Trust Level 3. That’s just my two cents, but there should be some way to re-appeal for the ability to earn it back.
Also, I do not know the exact numbers for TL3 off the top of my head but if they are upwards of 20k, as suggested here–
That’s honestly crazy. I spend a TON of time on the forums, to me an almost unhealthy amount of time on the forums lurking and reading and I don’t come close to that. I have a total of 36.6k posts read since the new forums launched (Though I am also not 100% on how the forums track that or how accurate that is OR what the official numbers are for TL3)
I would have to see some sources on the numbers but IF that is the case then honestly that does feel a bit steep. Like I said, I feel like I am on the forums an unhealthy amount just reading and lurking and that number seems insane to me and if I were not an MVP it would probably be unreachable for me and I am a forum addict
I don’t think the system is perfect and in fact think that things are not in a good place right now on the forums. Obviously I do not know what’s going on with Blizzard’s side of things, what the circumstances are over there right now, thought I wonder how much of the current state of the forums can be attributed to the layoffs that had happened.
Honestly, I know for a fact that the CM’s and mod team are doing their best and I appreciate the heck out of it but at the same time it’s really sucky some of the things I have witnessed first hand as well as many of the stories I have read second hand.
Also, and I am not trying to single you out Zoumz but I want to use your post to make a point.
The fact that this can be a mindset on the forums is very troubling and worrisome. This kind of mindset shows that the people abusing the report system, getting the threads locked, trolling, ect are winning when the general community starts stating things like this. It shows that, without sounding cliche, the bad guys are winning on these forums and that those in the community who abuse the systems can control what people should talk about to the point of condemning an entire group of posters on the forums.
Again, not trying to lock in on your Zoumz and I am sure that’s not what you meant with your post but it is an observation of how that comes off as.
I also, personally, witnessed this happen first hand in the Classic forums with another thread and a group of players literally bragging about abusing the report feature as well as bragging they would continue to abuse it until the thread was closed. Needless to say they won, they derailed the thread to an excessive point and got the thread auto locked on three occasions before a CM finally stepped in and closed the thread down for good.
The bad guys, again not trying to sound cliche here, are quite literally winning and it honestly worries me greatly. I would honestly argue that right now, on these forums, the biggest and most serious issue is the flagging system and how easily abused it is and how it seems like there is little to nothing in ways of repercussions for abusing it right now and I honestly hope that its a constant discussion over at Blizzard among those in charge of the forums.
Anyway, I am getting off track now. I have made my stance clear on my view of the new forums in general before hehe.
Anyway, I do think that in this climate that trust levels should be re-evaluated in terms of raw numbers as well as eligibility and hope that these threads at least generate discussion of some kind over there as they also do here.