Let's rework M+

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Instead of affixes that are annoying, why not do affixes that are fun?

-One mob in mob packs is dangerous, but if you kill it the rest of the pack is weaker.

-The timer starts at 7 min, but every mob kill adds time to it.

-Every 5 min your group gets a debuff of some kind.

-(taking a note from a fun idea in SL) two players have a debuff once every 7 min that cause them to have to fight each other. The winner gets a buff, loser gets a debuff.

-Bosses have more hp at 20%

-One enemy must be CC’d for 15 sec before it can be dealt damage in a pack.

-Immune to physical, immune to magic schools, (not every mob in the pack, maybe one is physical, one is nature, one is shadow, ect)

-Killing a dangerous enemy in the pack gives you blood lust for 6 seconds.

What are some other fun ideas you have to make it less unfun than what we have now?

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1 week defining affix:
(fortified/tyrannical)

1 wildcard affix:
(bolstering/bursting/raging/sanguine/spiteful/explosive/greivous/quaking/storming)

1 seasonal affix.

I think this would make the system 1000x more fun, and could make the base dungeons more challenging since they wouldn’t have to be balanced around 4 affixes.

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I would prefer just making them the same as they were during shadowlands.

With modern dungeons designed to be m+ dungeons (unlike temple of sadness and shadowmoon humiliation) and with interesting and fun seasonal affixes (unlike thundering which is a travesty).

DF m+ season 1 was a joke as it was. It seems there is something after all that shadowlands did better…

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Affix: Role Reversal

Now, healers have to DPS

:grin::rofl::kissing_heart:

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Omg that one wins LOL

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Affixes are meant to add difficulty and challenge. The fun is dealing with the variables.

This is why fort and tyr are unfun. Getting clobbered and fighting health sponges isnt fun. We already got key level scaling for that. All the other affixes fundamentally change how we play and even classes/specs we prefer.

We need more affixes though.

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You don’t think Tyr changes the way you play? Or Fort for that matter?

:thinking:

I certainly feel their differences far more than Bursting or Volcanic.

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Either the difficulty comes from the affixes or it comes from bigger stats.

I do not think it would be an improvement if we got ‘fun affixes’ but every key was raised by +3 in difficulty to compensate.

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You, I like you

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Its really not though

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I personally would prefer if at the end of the dungeon I say “WE GO AGAIN!” instead of “Ugh, that was pain”

I am tired of pain.

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Delete tyrannical.

What does this mean

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That instead of tyrannical it just has a longer execute phase. Could do the opposite too for 20% more hp until it hits 80% and then the bosses total hp just drops and its easier again.

Makes giant killer stacking more fun for fire mage, mm hunter, devoker

Or execute stacking more fun for War, Ret pally, aff lock.

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That is the ideal… but again, it’s meant to be both fun and challenging.

Would you rather have say ‘you get bloodlust for 6 each time you kill an enemy) but in return they do 30% more damage and have 30% more health to compensate or they just get quaking?

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You describe my sentiment with M+ so perfectly.

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As I said. A lot of folks think they like M+ but they don’t.

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No. We get the blood lust. They get the joy of a quicker death. No more kiss-curse design. Just kiss.

Now kith

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I mean… I like M+.

:man_shrugging:

This may be it. M+ is not supposed to just be a power fantasy. It’s supposed to be a struggle to overcome as a group.

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Then they ramp up the difficulty so we’re in the same relative spot. Because it should be fun, but it has to be challenging too.

Where do you want that difficulty to come from?

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Having to kill mobs to add time sounds like it would be harder, and wiping on a boss would be even more likely to brick a key than now.

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