completely disagree, I’d say for every “bad person” on here there are 10 people who actually care about the game and its playerbase long term. Not to mention the majority of the people here are BECAUSE they care about the game enough to talk about it/discuss it while not at home or while not on the game itself.
To claim that “the community is terrible” is to actively participate in the process of making it worse. You and Fallanaa are people I would consider “bad people” here on the forums.
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Ah okay…
A bad person is having a different opinion or viewpoint. Got it.
It’s one I developed myself (still not 100%). It’s in the vein of that extension we had for the old forums until they broke it.
It basically just hides the text from any character I enter into it at this point.
it’s not on the extensions store…aww
no… but “having a difference of opinion” and then making a baseless claim which encompasses all of our community? saying that the community is terrible? yea you guys are bad people.
Nope. Still in dev. ![:slight_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
Whatever floats your boat. ![:roll_eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/roll_eyes.png?v=6" ":roll_eyes:")
See my previous example of the person that practically admitted that he will collude with other players to squelch anyone that commits his pet peeve, even though Blizzard has explicitly stated that is NOT a violation. He has also admitted that he plans to hide in a grey area by claiming he was reporting SPAM TO avoid the consequences for that abuse of the system.
Giving players like that the power to collude to squelch any other player at sny time for any reason sure sounds like a lousy trade-off to me.
It’s hilarious how obsessive they are over me.
It’d be cute if it wasn’t stalky-scary. LOL
Wait til they are messaging you in game…that get’s real entertaining.
I got banned for voicing my opinion about this last time. Let’s just say I’m 100% in favor.
Right, I know of one video that isn’t immediately dismissable as staged or at the very least misleading, and it’s not in English which makes it harder for me to judge. I spend plenty of time in these threads, and my question is why doesn’t this happen MORE? Again, I’m asking specifically for the targeted dc-ing of opponents in battlegrounds. That’s one of the most common potential abuses that gets brought up. Battlegrounds are still a thing. They get streamed or recorded all the time. People still take them seriously. The changes in community don’t impact the fact that if it is easy to boot an opponent out of a BG, why doesn’t it happen.
Exploits that actually exist get abused, a lot, look what happened with the leveling potion exploit this past week. If it’s possible, people will do it. So why don’t people do this now? I don’t buy the excuse that modern wow community doesn’t care about competitive advantages in battlegrounds as much as people will in classic.
There are at least two posters in this thread that have repeatedly raised concerns about being “named and shamed” while also basically saying that they care nothing about all those other players in an MMO that are nothing but obstacles in their way.
It seems that some people really want to be able to behave in any manner they like without having to worry about consequences. “Why worry about consequences when my friends and I can immediately squelch anyone that hard the audacity to talk about my less than desirable behavior?”
Unfortunately for them, those blacklists will likely exist on third party sites that Blizzard cannot control. They will still have to face the consequences of their behavior if they refuse to alter that behavior.
Note: I am not condoning “naming and shaming”. I believe that those that do so should be reported.
The right-click report and auto-squelch features have been in the game since May of 2007. Could you play The Burning Crusade like a single player game? Was there widespread abuse when these features were announced back in 2007?
If by some freak chance there is widespread abuse of this feature in Classic, Blizzard will punish the abusers, remove the feature or tweak it in a manner to prevent future abuse of the system.
It’s my opinion, that few players will be willing to throw away their own accounts as well as the accounts of their friends, to temporarily squelch another player.
So I read through this entire thread a few times and thought what better way than to open up my argument with a very plausible black and white scenario
like 15 or so jerks in lfg channel right click to report spam and gg you are squelched for 24 hours or until a gm answers you appeal ticket to remove the squelch…
(average wait is currently 24 hours; once they get a influx of people for classic that wait time will go up meaning people will get squelched for 24 hours and the squelch will auto lift before a gm can resolve the issue. Meaning they likely won’t look into who reported you, as the “problem” sorted itself out.)
Now you can’t properly communicate with people for a day and thus cannot do a lot of group content(a core part of vanilla) because some jerks decided to abuse a system that either needs modification or removal…
/sarcasm Great system am I right?
If Blizzards has the manpower to investigate every right click to report issue in a timely fashion than that would also mean that they have the manpower to handle a large volume of Gm tickets; which in fact they do not, they have cut back on their number of Gms last year and this year. 775 in 2018 and 200+ this year so far…
Google blizzards staff cutbacks…
Once you do you will see that the “Abusers will be punished” point kinda goes out the window because it simply isn’t/won’t be true As the man power to handle abuse of the system/ let alone the number of tickets they have now is not currently employed and likely wont be by classics launch. When your help staff can’t keep up with current rates and you possibly double the player base without drastically increasing help staff problems are gonna go unresolved.
With rampant unchecked abuse this will lead to a very unpleasant community that refuses to interact with each other due to the fear of getting squelched for saying “hi anyone wanna group up to quest” in general chat.
If I where to be as disingenuous as the people white knighting right click to report I would be inclined to insinuate they only wish it available so they can abuse it to squelch others…
Doesn’t feel good having someone make disingenuous assertions about your side of the argument now does it?
If you look at blizzards COC/TOS some parts are pretty ambiguous and can’t really be properly interpreted by us Normies, and people abusing the system could say “Oh I thought that X was a reportable offense” whilst knowing full good and well that is isn’t and only feigned ignorance to maliciously silence other people and face no repercussions…Which is exactly why such things as squelching/silencing people should be handled by tickets to Gms so they can make the call as they know what is/isn’t acceptable…
Some people find the word “dang or darn” to be offensive and may report someone for using it squelching them for uttering a word that is in g Rated games in a Rated T game with far worse crude references in game…
(Some NPCs in game straight up use curse words or mildly suggestive phrases…just look at the back of the game box)
It’s wrong to assume the system isn’t currently being abused the heck out of as the forum discussion rules do not permit 1 to talk about it openly…
And just remember there is a mature language filter available in game; so people who are reporting someone for cursing are going out of their way to make an issue where 1 doesn’t exist, as they will not see those words in chat if they would simply apply the filter…
There are features in game that let you not have to deal with jerks/spammers without the need of Right Click to report…
One last thing you need to ask yourself; was swatting a thing back in 2007?
You know that thing that could land someone in federal prison for years if its a false report; the thing that’s gotten some innocent people killed…Or rampant Doxxing for that matter?
Some of us older gamers would never engage in such idiotic/childish activities; but younger generations seem to think they should be able to falsely accuse/report others of crimes they didn’t commit because they find it funny.
Look at what happens in the media; some people think they should be able to make false rape claims and not face prison time. When the accusations of wrong doing aren’t as severe and the punishments aren’t either the possible number of jerks willing to engage in such activities increases exponentially.
The right click to report feature may have been around a long time but many newer generation gamers/ people in general aren’t exactly as respectful or thoughtful as most old school peeps.
And they wouldn’t hesitate to do something malicious like falsely report other people with right click to report even knowing they could face consequences.
So the “it’s been around since 2007 and wasn’t abused then”, whilst factually correct argument still holds no weight today as it would only apply if the same players who played back then where the only players now, and did not change their mindsets since.
As you cannot take the good judgement/decency of players from a decade ago apply it to new players/returning players that may have a new mentality on things and assume they will act the same…Especially in the era of E-sports where doing malicious things to “competition” is common practice…
I personally vote that Blizzards outright pre-imptivley remove/not add Right click to report in Classic and only consider adding it into Classic if the populace becomes too unruly to the point where the other in game ignore jerks/spammer features won’t cut it.
Hopefully I don’t come across as to much of a jerk; and I apologize if I do.
Yeah what he said lol
This right here is my major concern with the current squelch system. There will be no lfg/lfr so people will be spamming chat channels for groups
Streamers don’t type using in game chat, in public channels, for fear of being mass reported. Let that sink in. Blizzard’s system encourages anti-social behavior for a game with an already broken community.
I’m considering forming a discord group for those of us who oppose the current RCR system so we can create a joint constructive post about it. Interested?