Let us use trinkets from any expansion

Crazy idea, but why not just make all gear scale like heirlooms so you could wear any gear you wanted from any expansion and it always be relevant?

Uh… Classic trinkets have ilvl too. ilvl is merely the item’s budget. Just because most Vanilla trinkets were near useless for DPS doesn’t mean they don’t have an ilvl.

The gear treadmill prolly needs to stay judging by other games success without it but…

I think that trinkets could be an exception. Harder to balance than stats on armor but also far more worth it due to the effects granted considering it’s an mmoRPG.

I think what they meant is how before WotLK, there was no item level (unless you used an addon that revealed it). Item Level wasn’t introduced until 3.2 WotLK. Before that, we didn’t have item level on gear. Just our levels.

Not in my world fellow yee ol chum! Prot Warriors BIS trinket is from Mara which is a level 45-51 dungeon.

Still has an ilvl.

Still can be reMOOOOVEEEED. Which they should.

You can’t remove ilvl, that’s how the item’s budget is calculated.

Trinkets shouldn’t have ilvl and should be utility based, not just extra dmg button, or even worse - just stat boost.

That’s for “to be interesting” instead of just rolling up dps numbers

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Take the red button for a example. We just need 1 red button trinket, not 3 other variations with RNG item level slapped on top.

Thank you dude!

It is the same trinket, ilvl only determines the stats on it.

Again folks : ilvl only determines the amount of “utility” on the trinket. That’s all ilvl is, it’s not a magic number, it’s simply the item’s allocated budget.

Again mr. baspirath

You’re still not understanding what ilvl is. That utility ? It has a certain numerical value. That numerical value comes from the budget allowed by the ilvl.

What is it you don’t understand ?

Let’s take a perfectly 100% utility trinket. Carrot on a Stick. “Increases mount speed by 3%”. Why 3% ? Why not 4% ? Why not 2% ?

3% comes from the ilvl. Because it is an ilvl 50 item, it can only ever increase mount speed by 3%. Because that’s how mount speed is weighted vs item level.

Do you still not understand?

No, I do not understand what is so hard to grasp for you.

I literally gave you an example. ilvl is simply the budget, the “how much utility” utility trinkets would have.

Go re-read my post, and if you’re still not understanding what it means, read it again. Utility trinkets would also require an ilvl to determine the numerical values on them.

I feel it would be hard for them to balance around trinkets. I imagine there would be some op trinkets to be had out there if they scaled to max level.

Convergence of Fates. Forever. And ever, and ever.

Assurance of Consequence
Vial of Living corruption
Evil Eye of Galakras

I feel like every class would run one of these if they could every time. CD reduction on your most important abilities is super important. Heck, run it with Convergence of Fates and really overkill it.

Shout outs to Prismatic prison of pride as well for giving an extra 3% to all secondary stats for healers. SoO had so many stupidly good trinkets.