Let Monks do the questline for Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest

Monk has a caster spec but they are ineligible for the drop in The Firelands to start the quest chain (because they were added after?).

Drac’thyr Evoker was just patched to be able to do it, which is awesome! So please Blizz, can my monk turn into a blue dragon :pleading_face:

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Fairly sure it’s because monks are only healers, and not dps casters. The weapon’s requirement is that a dps caster be capable of snagging it, or someone with a dps caster capability.

That being said, I don’t care about monks getting it. It’s fine if they do. It’s just they’d have to change the requirement.

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The staff is for offensive casters. Evokers have a caster DPS spec. Monks do not.

Case closed.

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There, issue averted.

This restriction of only DPS casters is kinda silly since that means every single class that has a has a caster spec except Monk and Paladin (is Holy a caster? All three specs use a mana bar I’m pretty sure) is allowed to have it but those are excluded for extremely flimsy reasons.

The staff is from 6 expansions ago, the stat/raid slot position is meaningless, just let all casters get it.

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All casters can get it. By your logic, I should be able to get it because death’s carees is a spell that I have that goes past melee range

That’s not how this works. Like I said, I don’t care if monks get access to it or not. It’s fine if they do. But acting like a healer spec having a dps spell suddenly makes them a dps spec is kind of silly.

Neither of these are “flimsy” considering monks and paladins, even as healers, are considered melee specializations. They function within melee range, and typically, must deal with melee mechanics.

You know, also the little thing about how paladins cannot use staves. That’s another thing.

No they don’t, Mistweavers are full on casters and they can’t get it.

How it works is rather silly.

That was the point, I was pointing out out the silliness of it all, since the restriction is in and of itself silly, since every other caster has a “DPS” spec.

That sounds just like moving the goal posts more than anything. They have a caster spec, the other stipulations are kinda irrelevant.

I don’t play em so didn’t know, but yeah that’s a valid reason for Pally to not get it.

Monk on the other hand, can use staves and has a caster spec.

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It’s not moving the goal post. Your argument is hinging on the fact they are casters. You can be a healer, without being a caster though within WoW’s ruleset. Monks, just like paladins, are considered melee healers, provide special buffs to melee dps only, and are typically in melee range dealing with melee mechanics.

For the third time, I do not care if monks get access to Tarecgosa. But these things do matter to the overall coding of the game. You should be framing the question more directly, and requesting that old content not be subject to current content rules and ideas. Framing the question in this way is much more likely to have something done because it frames the question in an actionable sense. It’s something Blizzard can hone in on, and consider.

As of right now “plz let monks use Tarecgosa” doesn’t do anything because monks, including their healer specialization, is considered a melee and Tarecgosa is coded to drop for dps spell casters only. And there is a difference between someone being classified as a caster healer, and a melee healer (even if they cast spells like soothing mist). Having a singular dps spell in the form of Crackling Jade Lightning does not make monk healers suddenly full on casters.

Funny enough, evokers cannot currently progress very far in this. Whether bug or some weird lock on their character pre-DF launch, is unknown.

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Are you mixing MW with something else or have you never played it?

Yeah, and every other caster that can use staves can do the quest, Monks can’t. That’s a glaring inadequency to me.

No. That’s a position you just made up, not a rule within the game itself.

Which means absolutely nothing. They’re casters.

You’re doing an awful lot of not caring.

That’s kinda what I was doing? Drac’thyr got patched/getting patched to do the quest line (despite having a ranged DPS caster spec from the start), so I’m requesting that same allowance be made for Monks.

Which is a silly stipulation.

Them having Mana instead of Energy does though. “Scale of Caster Spec ranges” is an observable quantity, not an in-game classification. You don’t have short range, medium rnage, long range casters for effects/loot/etc. You have casters.

You’re conflating “caster” with “x-range”, MW uses mana and Intellect is their primary stat.

And you would be wrong because none of them are considered melee. Monk is.

No it’s not. Holy paladins and monks are melee healers, and have been considered such since their inception. Your refusal to acknowledge that is on you, not me.

However, if you’re gonna start making comments like this, it’s obvious the mechanics of the game don’t mean anything to you and you’re just kind of stomping your foot because you want something.

You have a pleasant evening. But I am done responding to you now.

I’d be okay with monks getting it because at this point it would be for purely cosmetic purposes.

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Which has nothing to do with anything. I could bring up Enhancement Shaman but again, your focusing on “melee/ranged” is irrelevant. This is about Casters.

Their PLAYSTYLE is melee healer, that does not make them NOT be casters.

They do, this quest is available to all casters that can use staves save one. You might not like Mistweaver being a caster, but it is a caster.

Yeah that’s kinda my thinking, there’s no stat/role consideration for a staff from 6 expansions ago, just the transmog and the dragon form.