Let's be honest here...
Sharding the starting areas has nothing to do with server stability.
They've probably watched private server launches, and they can see just how much of a disaster the starting zones are.
They are not thinking about the private server players who are likely used to that disaster by now. They are most likely thinking about the retail players that will cross over and play Classic at launch, and those of us returning for Classic that don't like the way private servers launch their fresh servers.
This tells me that the concerns of private server players aren't that high on their priority list.
11/10/2018 08:06 AMPosted by AzerothinianLet's be honest here...
Sharding the starting areas has nothing to do with server stability.
They've probably watched private server launches, and they can see just how much of a disaster the starting zones are.
They are not thinking about the private server players who are likely used to that disaster by now. They are most likely thinking about the retail players that will cross over and play Classic at launch, and those of us returning for Classic that don't like the way private servers launch their fresh servers.
This tells me that the concerns of private server players aren't that high on their priority list.
Sharding in the starting area is specifically being done for load problems.
That is the entire point of sharding.
Ion talking about sharding at Blizzcon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w
Going to wait and see how it pans out before I make a commitment to the game.
If it follows the course it did in Wrath...
"We are only going to do it here and in this circumstance."
"Well, we're going to do it here too."
"Okay. We're doing it all over."
...I'm not going to even bother. Not worth the irritation. It's the biggest factor (alongside the QOL changes that turned it into a theme park ride) that lead me to leaving the game. It's full time inclusion is a deal breaker. Simple as that.
If it follows the course it did in Wrath...
"We are only going to do it here and in this circumstance."
"Well, we're going to do it here too."
"Okay. We're doing it all over."
...I'm not going to even bother. Not worth the irritation. It's the biggest factor (alongside the QOL changes that turned it into a theme park ride) that lead me to leaving the game. It's full time inclusion is a deal breaker. Simple as that.
11/10/2018 08:00 AMPosted by BrockthornSharding is pretty much a necessary evil with the SHEER volume of players coming back for launch days now. Back in Vanilla's first day it was just over 100k players playing together but now it is millions and it's just not feasible for the servers as we saw during the Warlords of Draenor launch, where they gave us free game time because of the queues and massive server problems causing many people not to be able to play at all the entire launch weekend.
Without sharding, there will probably be hours of queues again with servers going down which will put us all back in queues again. You might not be able to play with your friends anyway depending on queue positions. I'd rather be able to play and not see EVERY single person than spending hours on log in screens being frustrated.
I totally understand people not wanting it and I do think that if it affects your experience that much that it is the best course of action to just start your journey when they remove it. We have waited so long for official Classic another week or two won't hurt.
But didn't that happen with BFA launch ?
Sharding didn't save you.
The login servers aren't a part of sharding.
Not for me. I was able to play just fine the first day and i'm even on a high pop server. If there were problems then they must have happened when I slept or on other servers.
For me Legion and BFA launch was 1 million times better than WoD was. It took me two days to get out of Shadowmoon Valley because of the queues and lag making it impossible to quest at all and I didn't get to play with any of my friends because they were stuck in queues so long that they gave up. The WoD problems were huge and widespread, Blizz rarely gives gametime unless it is absolutely necessary.
Even so, if there are still problems these days with the volume of people coming back for launches even with sharding, then that is even more reason to keep it in for a week unless we want it to be unplayable.
I intend to sub for a single month at the start. If sharding is still in the game after that month or it rears its ugly head in much later zones, I let my sub expire and I find a private server to play on.
Thinking about doing the same honestly.
But I know they'll turn it back on for big content launches.
But I know they'll turn it back on for big content launches.
11/10/2018 07:29 AMPosted by StarrsThats actually a great idea... dont sub until sharding is gone.
That's assuming sharding actually goes away.
11/10/2018 08:25 AMPosted by Brockthorn11/10/2018 08:06 AMPosted by AzerothinianLet's be honest here...
Sharding the starting areas has nothing to do with server stability.
They've probably watched private server launches, and they can see just how much of a disaster the starting zones are.
They are not thinking about the private server players who are likely used to that disaster by now. They are most likely thinking about the retail players that will cross over and play Classic at launch, and those of us returning for Classic that don't like the way private servers launch their fresh servers.
This tells me that the concerns of private server players aren't that high on their priority list.
Sharding in the starting area is specifically being done for load problems.
That is the entire point of sharding.
Ion talking about sharding at Blizzcon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w
The load problems he is talking about are to many player's competing for resources at no time in that video did he mention any potential issues with the servers themselves
11/10/2018 07:30 AMPosted by Azerothinian
I do want sharding in the starting areas for a limited launch window in classic. I'd prefer to have a playable starting experience instead of a sea of level 1 toons all fighting for the same things, thanks.
I don't want sharding. I want a sea of level 1 toons all fighting for the same things. Thanks.
But serious, i do. Its frustrating, but fun in a strange way.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Just don’t sub until sharding is removed. Of course, if to many are waiting they might add it again when we start playing. :F
11/11/2018 08:01 AMPosted by FacerollYes, I was thinking the same thing. Just don’t sub until sharding is removed. Of course, if to many are waiting they might add it again when we start playing. :F
The sharding won't be removed. It's part of 7.3.5 engine.
They will just turn it off. But it will always be there in the code.
People are ok with sharding and loot trading, so obviously they should be ok with other changes! LFR and CRZ in Classic, here we come! Can't wait!
11/10/2018 08:25 AMPosted by Brockthorn11/10/2018 08:06 AMPosted by AzerothinianLet's be honest here...
Sharding the starting areas has nothing to do with server stability.
They've probably watched private server launches, and they can see just how much of a disaster the starting zones are.
They are not thinking about the private server players who are likely used to that disaster by now. They are most likely thinking about the retail players that will cross over and play Classic at launch, and those of us returning for Classic that don't like the way private servers launch their fresh servers.
This tells me that the concerns of private server players aren't that high on their priority list.
Sharding in the starting area is specifically being done for load problems.
That is the entire point of sharding.
Ion talking about sharding at Blizzcon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w
They are considering sharding because they are planning to create megaservers to deal with tourists, which will be the majority of the initial players.
You can argue dealing with 200 players in a starting zone was done before (albeit awfully)... How about 1000 players?
Stuff that, I’ll be playing from day one to get ahead of the pack. 1 zone of sharding isn’t going to ruin my experience.
A few weeks after launch we're going to 1 of 2 posts on the forums
1. "Blizz..you lied to us"
2. "See, we told ya"
So I'm waiting 2-3 weeks and will read over the forums (no sub no forum access by then) and I hope to see #2 above.
1. "Blizz..you lied to us"
2. "See, we told ya"
So I'm waiting 2-3 weeks and will read over the forums (no sub no forum access by then) and I hope to see #2 above.
Brockthorn: Did you get the limited time to trial Bfa gift and not use it yet?
It sucks because I really want to be there day 1 for a fun hectic experience but if they do sharding I will wait until sharding is gone to play, and if it ever comes back I'll be done with the game.
11/11/2018 11:58 AMPosted by IndupoBrockthorn: Did you get the limited time to trial Bfa gift and not use it yet?
It was there one day and then disappeared.
I did get the free Destiny though...unsubbed since May 2017 and I got a free Destiny.
I have tokens on my bank alt but won't use them until I decide whether or not I'm coming back.
Don't let me know, since I've made the decision that if sharding is in the game the first week, day, hour or even minute...I'm not ever playing Classic. I'm sure no one cares, and the trolls will say 'You'll be there anyway!' I'm not going to make a giant post about my reasoning. It just is what it is. I don't say this with anger or angst. I don't really feel any emotion about it. I've just made that determination and the ball is now in Blizzard's court.
I agree with you Mogar, sharding in the beginning only means that Blizzard intends to have it throughout...Not vanilla at all, I was going to use the free time they gave me for BFA to explore classic, see if they have it in multiple areas, after this suspicion was confirmed I was going to uninstall battlenet.