Blame Blizzard who has refused for 15 years to give us open access to FULL 40 MAN PREMADES. All they have to do is match premade to premade, just like they are doing in retail or open it up period. WOW is the ONLY game Activision has that restricts PVP party size. It is beyond stupid, but they have not reversed their process. Now that we can queue with a 5 man party the Alliance picked up their toys and went home because they can’t abuse Horde anymore so now I’m in a ONE HOUR AND 17 MINUTE AVERAGE WAIT TIME AV QUEUE. Simple fix: let us queue up to a full 40 man premade. Alliance will quit sucking their thumbs and play. I personally think they are skeeeered of Horde organized teams because Horde players are far superior to Alliance. We have to be because Horde is handicapped in favor of Alliance at every turn, starting with racials. If you don’t believe me roll a Horde character, merc in retail and compare your damage and performance as an Alliance version of your Horde toon. Undeniable.
AV will be meta once it’s premade vs premade with no timer in WSG
Bots stay competitive cause they dont just bot 24/7, only when they are away from their computer. We had a rank 12 player that botted while he was at work and sleeping, but played the rest of the time. Someone like me who plays all his matches had a hard time keeping up to him, His bot actually broke our brackets two weeks back which forced me to pvp for yet another week.
It’s always bothered me that Blizz doesnt have some sort of algorithm that detects extremely long patterns. Bots running for hours will literally create a pattern. Human interaction will Always have random inputs. Yet Bots go undetected for so long.
Don’t forget the class/talent tree revamps.
I use that same 3rd party software to communicate in raids. Communication is a bannable offense?
i couldn’t have said it better myself!
Or maybe you could just get better? Oh no, that would require a LITTLE effort on your part…
Sigh. It’s a @!#$!@#$ game.
If the faction balanced was inverted, do you really think it would be any different? PLAYERS who play horde would do exactly the same thing.
Faction is irrelevant. There are people who would do anything to win, including cheating. Faction has nothing to do with it.
The only question they have to ask is he still paying his sub fee every month.
The one Discord said BiS and enchants; this broke paladin is only self-enchanted. xD
What I got so far for pure healing: Classic Raider: rid=32&name=Illutiankade
I also have a spell power set; +128 damage / +177 healing.
In both cases, Briarwood is a lie; it doesn’t exist! - I do feel bad, us always taking his Tiara. 
I working on getting another account to 60 to maybe duo Gerstahn for the cloak (better suited to spelladin).
((On my server, Pagle, most BRD runs are Golem, Anger, and Arena. So blah.))
As to what I’m saying. I’m saying the ‘good geared’ players got into the VIP Louge. So PuG groups became even worse due to the fact the ‘good geared’ players wouldn’t be in those groups.
I see what you are saying. It just, to me anyway, seems like you got the short end of the stick when it came to people spamming discords.
There are a good number that have more lax requirements. The better discords will even pull from the others, so you essentially “graduate” from one to another.
My a** retard i was getting pugs 2000+ honor guaranteed all last week by doing almost the exact opposite discord premades were doing.
But those that put more effort in to maximize their character want to play with others who did the same. You ended up playing with those who did not.
Correct 
What? Why are you talking to me?
He means modern 3rd party software, like Ventrillo. Oh wait I mean Teamspeak.
ROFLLL wowow
Got as far as I could before the dungeons ran dry of players. Now I’m finishing off with raiding.
Doesn’t negate that by most of the ‘good geared’ players congregating together left PuGs at a severe disadvantage.
In hindsight, Blizzard should have either made the BGs non-crossrealm or removed the BG Number, from the start.
Premades would still have found a way, but it’s likely it wouldn’t have been as easy as “hey, what number did you get?”.
OR, enacted a secondary “head count” at the 30 second mark of a BG starting. If the number is below the minimum starting amount; hold the timer until more join (with a message so players don’t think it’s bugged).
Sorry your post got flagged. Unfortunately, the forums can easily be abused aswell.