Let’s talk about necrolord, need all necrolords together!

That doesn’t change the fact that mobility is objectively useful for tanks.

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And too much is redundant.

Agree to disagree.

It seems like each covenant offers a genuinely good or otherwise useful ability, and another that can be helpful in the right situation.

I’m not familiar with tanking, so I don’t know all the cooldowns. But surely the shield could be paired with something else to be useful? If nothing else, it’s still another cooldown. A guild mate of mine (priest) has this covenant but she can also cast it while moving? Is that something available to everyone who takes the covenant?

However, I think the shield could get adjusted some. Make it a shorter cast time for starters would help.

I have used it mainly in Torghast when I get certain buffs, it has been helpful from my experience. Otherwise, I cannot really say except it helps to have an added layer of protection when going into a big pull battle I suppose.

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Its pretty rare to be able to use it like that.

Pulls that size tend to get away from you due to aoe cap and threat limitations.

Honestly Ive stopped using it except to make soloing elites a hair easier.

The 4s channel is murder, but so is the duration equalling the cooldown, the inability to move, and a whole bunch of other factors.

I use ignore pain nonstop. I LIKE feeling durable.

I forget to use fleshcraft all the time. It barely survives anything unless I managed to get the “big” version from an elite, and the long CD helps make it forgettable.

Banner at least does something, albeit 3-4 things halfbaked.

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I would get more worth out of using literally any other mitigation button. It’s not worth the GCD.

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U may wanna do more research on covenants

What big pull is this you speak of? You mean the rare time the tank stacked massive amounts of rares or elites and got 1 shield on that fell off?

What other ability for caster has

4 second channel
4000-6000 shield
2 minute cool down.

This is the worst cov ability and needs adjusting.

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My biggest problem with fleshcraft is the 4s cast time.

makes Emeni near-mandatory

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Yup I hate flesh craft, I do like the idea behind the 2min buffs you get based on what monsters you used it on but the shield, the cast time and the 2min CD is disgusting for a DPS.

I gotta mention that in the Maldraxxus dungeons you can get some sweet buff like a +15% haste aura.

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Hopefully something changes in the future.

As of now it’s off of my bars unless I’m soloing torghast lol

I think Fleshcraft is awesome, but I have no other shields. As a healer, I wish more people rolled Necrolords, lol. Haven’t seen a tank with it yet.

I just need to remember to use it more. Still adjusting.

It is awesome

It even looks amazing

But needs some adjusting.

4 second channel is too long and you gotta stand there like you’re holding a trophy

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A 2-3 second channel would be better, I agree. With a fast tank, I’m behind on the next pull after my channel.

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What? I like Fleshcraft too, but movement is extremely relevant in PvE, and so is clearing debuffs (Kyrian). Or did you only mean pulling dungeon trash? Even some dungeon bosses benefit from having extra movement abilities, like Devos, Mueh’zalah and Tred’ova to name a few. But it’s vastly more important in raids.

Yeah let me just stand there for 4 seconds during a boss fight so I can take 1 more hit.

What a great ability

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I went Necrolords as a Guardian druid. It is worth noting that my primary goals for SL are heroic raids and M+ dungeons so I’m not exactly looking at pushing cutting edge content.

I find that I tend to use the bubble pre-pull basically just to help smooth out the first few seconds of an encounter. I’ve done the dungeons enough at this point to know what trash packs are the right one’s to channel the shield at so that I get the best possible shield pre boss. That said I never use the ability in combat, a 4 second channel in which you can’t dodge, move, etc., is more of a detriment than a help.

I’m currently running Plague Deviser as my soulbind, I tried Emeni but honestly given that I’m only using Fleshcraft pre-pull she doesn’t make much sense. I’m not sure how they could re-work fleshcraft to make it more useful for multiple roles because it does feel really lackluster for DPS and Healing. Maybe they could bake in some more buffs to the shield (ala Plague Crafter’s first buff) and make Emeni’s channel while moving base line?

totally agree. I hate using it. and it’s only going to get more annoying since my favorite content is m+

“Don’t worry. The covenants will be balanced.”