Lesson on how to make a proper pvp server Blizzard

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A pvp server that does not seperate pve gearing and pvp is not really pvp at all, also a good pvp system should have gear accessible to all that way gear is not a deciding factor for success.

  • No Raiding, all pve endgame should be completely disabled on a hardcore pvp server.
    The best gear easily accessible either by a simple crafting system everyone can access and afford without much trouble just from leveling.

  • Arena, with your current gear system arena is a highly flawed system that is meant to be presented as pvp, however with how you reward players gear based on ranking is not only flawed but also unfair, for that reason arena should not be on hardcore pvp servers since it’s not really pvp and it would simply split the pvp community between arena and open world pvp, if people want to pvp they should prepare themselves for chaos that is the purest form of pvp, groups, solo players, stealthers, zergs and so on, it may be intense but it’s fun.

  • Battlegrounds: Far too much running around because of those silly objectives. Make a map with keep systems instead where Horde and Alliance fight against eachother and can take over keeps, no objectives period it makes people run around like they are questing, it does not belong in pvp period. I don’t know who made your pvp system but i can tell you right now they have never played a proper pvp game like Dark Age of Camelot for example which is widely considered the best large scale pvp game.

Now onto the exciting part World pvp, this should be in the same zone as your battleground system, the old world pvp system where people fight in different maps are far too much spread out, there needs to be a zone dedicated to pvp, no objectives! the only events that should exist is that you can take over towers and keeps. People are smart enough to make their own goals and objectives, they don’t need to run around capturing flags to do that.

Pvp harbor it’s very own rewards and every pvp player knows or should know this, they don’t need rewards to feel like playing pvp, if the system is great then that speaks for itself.

Instead of giving players ranks that add exclusive gear, you should make a ranking system like honor that allow people to unlock cosmetics for their gear to give them bragging rights, no exclusivity for gear period, it creates unfairness and thus a poor pvp implementation.

30 years of pvp experience, i have played the best there is such as UO and DAoC.

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Post on a retail character showing achievements because you sound like someone that barely made Rival one time and talks smack to his cesspool guild in retail because he got one more KB then everyone else on alts in a random BG.

WoW is a PvE game with PvP flair, it always has been and it always will be.

LIterally nothing you say even makes sense, you want to gut over 90% of the end game content because it sounds like you can’t be bothered to do anything besides solo que and think it’s unfair people can play more then you.

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I don’t need to post on anything else than what i decide, also everything i said make perfect sense to a true pvp player atleast, you just don’t get it either from the lack of experience or ignorance.

Also World of Warcraft is a PvE game and you should have stopped there, the pvp in the game is poorly implemented and exploitable, only people that hide behind gear feel there’s a need for it to be there.

I can be bothered to do everything if it’s worth doing, i have played games that are far more grindy than this before this was a thought, nothing new at all, if you were old enough to know UO you wouldn’t be accusing me of being lazy,

And yes the endgame pvp content has no place on a real pvp server the way it’s implemented, because there are shortcuts that can be exploited getting geared for pvp quickler that way, if there was no gear sharing between PvE and PvP then perhaps then raiding would be fine but then again why bother with it and hence the reason why it’s a better idea to remove it.

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i said make perfect sense to a true pvp player

Real PvPers also do PvE content because they know bads like you can’t. A real PvPer does everything for the advantage.

pvp in the game is poorly implemented and exploitable

Sounds like someone got beat up by someone who can think above light up buttons.

I can be bothered to do everything if it’s worth doing

Obviously not because you are asking to remove it because you don’t want to.

i have played games that are far more grindy than this before this was a thought

If that is true then why does it bother you to grind? Because you either lack the skill and/or time and want to force others down to your level.

if you were old enough to know UO you wouldn’t be accusing me of being lazy,

I played FF11, UO was a worthless joke in comparison.

If your PvP skills were as good as your excuses you would still be hard stuck at 1200.

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i said make perfect sense to a true pvp player

Real PvPers also do PvE content because they know bads like you can’t. A real PvPer does everything for the advantage.

That’s you being born too late in an age where the best of the genre was already out of its prime, the best pvp games does not focus on pve because blending pve and pvp tends make it unbalanced and ruin it just like we see in your birth game.

pvp in the game is poorly implemented and exploitable

Sounds like someone got beat up by someone who can think above light up buttons.

Someone always have your ticket, it’s your job to prepare yourself of that, i make sure i can pick my fights in wow i also use a gear viewer which helps decide on my actions next.

I can be bothered to do everything if it’s worth doing

Obviously not because you are asking to remove it because you don’t want to.

i have played games that are far more grindy than this before this was a thought

If that is true then why does it bother you to grind? Because you either lack the skill and/or time and want to force others down to your level. You keep talking about grinding, we are talking about pvp here, stay on the subject.

if you were old enough to know UO you wouldn’t be accusing me of being lazy,

I played FF11, UO was a worthless joke in comparison.

Final fantasy games are for confused twitch brats and anime creeps, sadly seems to be a common thing with the internet generation, i’m glad i was not born in such troubled times. Terrible mediocre modern mmorpgs with not one original bone. You speak of uo and desperately try to pretend like you are intellgent enough to have the knowledge, however you do not give any constructive detail of why you would think so other than your poor attempt to bash a game you have never played.

If you PvP skills were as good as your excuses you would still be hard stuck at 1200.

Skills is a word which artificial meaning is born from the desperation of overcompensation originating from ego or a immature god complex in a mistaken belief that you the person are “better” than others. Experience is what they should be saying but 20 year old basement dwellers don’t have a clue and never will.

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Will these servers have flying sparkle ponies?

If so, I’m in.

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I don’t see why not if it adds to the gameplay, pvp does not have to be so serious, it is only a game after all.

Hardcore pvp servers is for everyone that likes a good pvp system, daoc had many casual players even if it take years to reach realm rank13 if you had no alts, it was a family game like wow with a good mix of casual, family and hardcore.

But mostly a mature minded community, not like mmorpgs today which i like to call moba communities.

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There is no pony level

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Mom get the camera and the ruler
IBAs in here

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You take that back!

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You don’t even know how to quote on the forums.

That’s you being born too late in an age where the best of the genre was already out of its prime, the best pvp games does not focus on pve because blending pve and pvp tends make it unbalanced and ruin it just like we see in your birth game.

Assuming my age because you have no real argument. Pathetic just like your game play.

Someone always have your ticket, it’s your job to prepare yourself of that, i make sure i can pick my fights in wow i also use a gear viewer which helps decide on my actions next.

According to you, everyone that does PvE content has your ticket punched so that’s almost everyone champ.

Final fantasy games are for confused twitch brats and anime creeps

FF14 is yes, FF11 was the most grindy MMORPG to ever exist which isn’t even debatable.

You speak of uo and desperately try to pretend like you are intellgent enough to have the knowledge, however you do not give any constructive detail of why you would think so other than your poor attempt to bash a game you have never played.

You mean exactly like what you did with your original post? Talk about a pathetic argument, you seriously want to talk about someone’s intelligence level when you can’t even muster up the 100 IQ needed to properly quote and reply on a gaming forum?

Skills is a word which artificial meaning is born from the desperation of overcompensation originating from ego or a immature god complex in a mistaken belief that you the person are “better” than others.

Which is why these things called numbers exist to quantify and categorize people into brackets according to their skills. You keep mentioning intelligence when you can’t even grasp basic concepts that elementary children understand.

Experience is what they should be saying but 20 year old basement dwellers don’t have a clue and never will.

Making blanket statements about someone’s age and living arrangements when you can’t muster up enough brain power to think of a real insult.

You’re ability at insults matches your PvP skill level which is unranked. Since you probably don’t know what unranked is since its the bottom tier of competitive play.

Try harder

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LOL
Thanks Mom

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You don’t even know how to quote on the forums.

Unlike you i don’t sit and post here all day, i just wanted to teach a amateurish company on how to make a proper pvp system, but why am i explaining this is someone like you, waste of my time.

Assuming my age because you have no real argument. Pathetic just like your game play.

I did not assume your age, i easily guessed it from your immature reponses.

According to you, everyone that does PvE content has your ticket punched so that’s almost everyone champ.

I can still take a bottom feeder like yourself with one arm tied behind my back.

Final fantasy games are for confused twitch brats and anime creeps

FF14 is yes, FF11 was the most grindy MMORPG to ever exist which isn’t even debatable.

Still a terrible average running simulator that focus on pimping yourself up with furries and what not individals like yourself get off on.

You mean exactly like what you did with your original post? Talk about a pathetic argument, you seriously want to talk about someone’s intelligence level when you can’t even muster up the 100 IQ needed to properly quote and reply on a gaming forum?

Someone who needs to use numbers to describe their own complexity only limit himself to just that.

Skills is a word which artificial meaning is born from the desperation of overcompensation originating from ego or a immature god complex in a mistaken belief that you the person are “better” than others.

Which is why these things called numbers exist to quantify and categorize people into brackets according to their skills. You keep mentioning intelligence when you can’t even grasp basic concepts that elementary children understand.

It’s good to see you used my words to improve you way of thinking, i fear it can only be improved from here on out.

Experience is what they should be saying but 20 year old basement dwellers don’t have a clue and never will.

Making blanket statements about someone’s age and living arrangements when you can’t muster up enough brain power to think of a real insult.

I’m glad i have free rental space in your thinker, that was just an easy answer that you clearly exposed earlier on.

You’re ability at insults matches your PvP skill level which is unranked. Since you probably don’t know what unranked is since its the bottom tier of competitive play.

Try harder

You failure is thinking that i was trying to insult you, a person can only insult themselves by consenting what others tell them.

Only a poor pvp player needs to box themselves in with a ranking system for the self confidence that they’re already lacking. I have been on top on several leaderboards back i wasn’t smart enough to think outside the box just like you demonstrated in excellent fashion.

Words are only useful if you are ready to back them up with actions, that is what seperate the men from the boys, if you want me to demonstrate my extensive experience i will gladly give you a taste of what i can do.

Though i am 50 years of age and out of my prime decades ago, i can still take you on my worst day.

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I think some of the points you make are pretty good. There are issues with implementing them in WoW though.

DAoC, which is my personal favorite MMO, had stat caps, so the reward was not gear. WoW is completely the opposite.

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Spoiler: It wasn’t.

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Man you trippen.

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Just play any wow servers that aren’t run by these greedy corporate demons, they are more reliable than blizzard, some of them have been up for way longer than classic era and are doing great, better engine (real engine) You actually notice the artwork and effort the old boys put into it, better admins, better longevity.

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Gear isn’t necessarily a deciding factor for success. Skill has a lot to do with it, too. Also, having teammates that aren’t AFK helps, too.

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Lmfao get a grip.

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