Legion+BFA = The bane of WoW

Same here. Was very disappointed when they didn’t continue into BFA.

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The shine of legion is wearing off now that people see the disaster of BFA started with legion alpha/beta.

Right now Blizz built the foundation of the current WoW on legion and it is not good because of how gutted the classes are.

Legion had content unlike WoD which I suspect why people are so forgiving of Legion.

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If nothing else, the Artefact talents - active and passive - should have become a new row of talents at minimum or been baked into the class, even if they had to put a few of them in at lower levels.

And also, as someone who hates PvP with the power of a thousand suns, give the PvP players back their progression paths.

bfa the bane of wow.

bfa systems = lowest thing ever.

bfa grinds = feels like created by non humans, 0 fun.

No argument will be won listing legion with bfa. They are completely opposite. Bfa is worse in every way.

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True but BFA took the style and game approach of Legion. It made it worse, but Legion is where that design started and for many of us the design ideas first implemented in Legion are all wrong.

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Dev’s tried to double down on legion systems with bfa just because some people enjoyed grinding AP for the first time… it went terrible.

Some “elitists” complained so much about titanforged and we got the worst system ever created corruption.

Their gamble didnt pay off.

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Not everyone likes the rush rush rush aspect Blizzard keeps pushing in the game.

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A lot of players did. Raids were in the original game because the games they were modeling off of had them; they have made them smaller and less important ever since.

Have they though? I mean raids in WoW seem pretty much like the same as any other MMORPG.

Leave my gamemode outta this pver.

No it isn’t.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks this. You hit the nail on the head. I don’t think people were as upset as they thought they were when artifacts went away. They just blamed it on that when their classes felt empty when they were gone.

They have shrunk in size and diminished in terms of rewards; you can get to 475 without ever entering one now.

They are an option for endgame, but not the only one.

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If you’re complaining about War Mode, I have to wonder if you like PVP or if you just like killing people who stand no chance against your gear level. I am the filthiest of casuals when it comes to PVP, but I think War Mode is just about the best thing they’ve added this cycle. You opt in, you opt out. and the benefits and consequences are yours to reap. If we ever get a WoW2, I hope it’s in there from the start.

Yeah, war mode is how flagging should have worked from the beginning.

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With the extra that war mode off allows cross-faction communication/grouping and war mode on does not.

Aren’t we getting covenant points in Shadowlands? Do you really think it will be much different?

Did you think Azerite Points was different than Artifact Power? I didn’t.

We’ll see how covenant progression works - but at its face it sounds basically the same to me.

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Your game mode? If you actually PvPed you would HATE war mode.

Because timed content does not belong in an mmo. There is a dozen ways to test a players skill without a timer, but they choose a timer to push for e-sporting.

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