Legacy Raid Hotfixes

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I got bored while doing crafting orders and wrote up some hotfixes that would make Legacy Content a lot more fun/bearable. Not just for mount collectors, but also taking in mind Transmog & Pets.

Changes like these would be an easy W for the game, and although I know things like this take time and effort to implement, I also feel like the collection part of WoW is often overlooked and ignored. (A clear example being how long we had to wait for a Garrosh Skip, and it only being added last month…)

Some of the points here have been asked for for years, are obvious problems, or just small changes that I personally think would be neat to have.

Let me know your thoughts, or what you would add to this!

(Keep in mind that certain mechanics from BFA & SL would become obsolete once Legacy Damage is added, so stuff like Painsmith would become super easy just because of Legacy Damage.)

Hotfixes for Legacy Raids

Classic

Molten Core

  • The Core Hounds in Magmadar & Lucifrons room will now stay dead once killed.
  • Ragnaros is finally ready to emerge and will now be spawnwable without having to kill all other bosses in the raid.

Blackwing Lair

  • The supression room will no longer affect players above level 45.

Temple of Ahn’Qiraj

  • Added a door to go straight to C’Thun’s chamber.
  • Reduced the aggro radius of Obsidian Enemies to the normal value.
  • Qiraji Weapon & Gear Armaments will now be tradeable to players who assisted in the kill.
  • Viscidus now no longer requires frost damage to kill and will now be oneshot-able by higher level players.
  • You will no longer be instantly dismounted upon being attacked while riding the Qiraji Battle Tank mounts.

The Burning Crusade

Karazhan

  • Added a skip for the Chess Event at the cost of missing out on its rewards. Talk to the Shade of Medivh to skip the event.

Serpentshrine Cavern

  • Lady Vashj will now no longer expect you to do her four totems, and will be killable right away.

The Eye

  • Fixed an issue with Kael’thas that made him not enter combat right after his advisors were slain.

Black Temple

  • Added a skip to Illidan Stormrage. Talk to the Broken at the start of the raid to teleport there.

Sunwell Plateau

  • Added a skip to M’uru. Talk to Kalecgos after defeating him to teleport there.

Wrath of the Lich King

Naxxramas

  • Fixed an issue where the Four Horsemen would reset if all four were killed at the same time.
  • Gothik the Harvesters encounter has been reduced to a one minute duration, down from five.
  • Kel’thuzad is tired of waiting and will now face you himself directly.

Ulduar

  • Added a button to mess with Mimiron’s creations, spawning the three-part boss in one go.
  • Added a skip to Yogg’saron. Talk to the mage at the start of the raid to teleport there.

Icecrown Citadel

  • Valithria Dreamwalker can now be skipped by classes that have no healing spells. Talk to her to skip the encounter. You may still loot the rewards from this encounter.
  • Added a skip to the Lich King. Talk to your faction leader at the start of the raid to teleport there.

Cataclysm

Blackwing Descent

  • You can now taunt Nefarian, allowing access to the final boss fight immediately without having to kill other bosses.

Firelands

  • The portal to Majordomo will now always be available.

Dragon Soul

  • Added a skip to Madness of Deathwing. Talk to the red dragon after defeating Morchok to teleport to the Maelstrom.
  • Spine of Deathwing will no longer roll when you’re running the instance solo.
  • A new NPC has been added to the start of the instance that will let you disable roleplay dialogue if you have already completed this raid once.

Mists of Pandaria

World Bosses

  • Ordos can now also be reached by players without the Legendary Cloaks.

Mogu’shan Vaults

  • Added a skip to Elegon. Speak with Lorewalker Cho at the start to teleport there.
  • The bat riders flying around Gara’jal’s boss room will now fly slightly lower to make them easier to aggro.

Throne of Thunder

  • Added a skip to Ji-Kun and Lei Shen. Speak with the Pandaren at the start to teleport there.
  • Reduced the effects of the wind before Horridon’s boss room.

Siege of Orgrimmar

  • Added a skip to Korkron Dark Shamans. Interact with the scroll at the start of the instance to teleport there.
  • You can now skip the roleplay dialogue between Thrall and Garrosh by speaking to Garrosh and taunting him.

Warlords of Draenor

Highmaul

  • Added a skip to Imperator Mar’gok. Speak with the Highmaul Ogre at the start to teleport there.

Blackrock Foundry

  • The skip quest in Blackrock Foundry can now be accepted from a new NPC at the start of the raid, and will now only require one Blackhand kill.
  • Fixed an issue where Blackhand’s corpse would float in mid-air if he was killed while phasing platforms.

Hellfire Citadel

  • The skip quest in Hellfire Citadel can now be accepted from Khadgar at the start of the raid, and will now only require one Mannoroth kill, down from 4.
  • Fixed an issue that teleported you back to the Twisting Nether after defeating Archimonde.

Legion

World Bosses

  • All Legion World Bosses will be up at once from now on.

Emerald Nightmare

  • Xavius will now no longer wait for his minions to deal with you, and face you himself right away.

The Nighthold

  • Thalyssra will now let you disable roleplay dialogue if you have already completed this raid once.
  • Gul’dan will now be able to drop more than one Fiendish Hellfire Core.

Tomb of Sargeras

  • Kil’jaeden’s Rupturing Singularity will no longer knock back players above level 60.

Antorus, the Burning Throne

  • Fixed an issue that caused the Garothi Worldbreaker to become unattackable for a short period of time if both cannons were killed at the same time.
  • The Felhounds of Sargeras will now no longer leave their boss room.
  • Eonar’s encounter can now be skipped by players who are solo. Speak to Eonar to skip the encounter and obtain the rewards right away.
  • Both the skip quests in Antorus are now combined into one, letting you skip to Imonar and the Burning Throne after killing Argus once.
  • Argus will now be able to drop more than one Shackled Ur’zul.

Battle for Azeroth

General

  • Legacy Damage has been added to BFA Raids & Dungeons, making them significantly easier to do.

World Bosses

  • All BFA World Bosses will be up at once from now on.

Uldir

  • Mythrax will no longer attempt to Mind Control players in a group of 5 players or less.
  • G’huun will crawl out of his nest and face you right away if you are solo.

Battle of Dazar’alor

  • Opulence will no longer have increased attributes if pulled without doing the golem gauntlet.
  • Akunda’s Aspect will no longer cast Mind Wipe.
  • Gonk’s Aspect will no longer cast Crawling Hex.
  • Conclave of the Chosen will no longer receive Loa’s Pact when close together if you are solo.
  • King Rastakhan will no longer cast Zombie Dust Totem.
  • High Tinker Mekkatorque will no longer cast World Enlarger if you are solo.
  • Lady Jaina Proudmoore’s Frozen Solid will no longer affect players above level 60.
  • Lady Jaina Proudmoore will now be able to drop more than one Glacial Tidestorm.

The Eternal Palace

  • The skip quest now only requires one Za’qul kill.
  • Pashmar’s Touch will no longer become Fanatical Zeal.
  • The Queen’s Court will no longer receive Seperation of Power when close together if you are solo.
  • Queen Azshara’s Ancient Wards no longer need to be drained, and will be permanently disabled.
  • Queen Azshara will no longer cast Beckon.
  • Tidemistresses no longer have Crystalline Shield.

Ny’alotha, the Waking City

  • The skip quest now only requires one Carapace kill.
  • The Prophet Skitra’s correct illusion will now be more obvious.
  • Carapace of N’Zoth and N’Zoth the Corruptor will no longer Mind Control you when you do not have the Legendary Cloak equipped.
  • Fixed an issue that causes N’Zoth the Corruptor to reset if all players were in the Mind of N’Zoth.
  • Players can enter the Mind of N’Zoth multiple times per encounter on Mythic Difficulty.
  • N’Zoth the Corruptor will now be able to drop more than one Ny’alotha Allseer.

Shadowlands

General

  • Legacy Damage has been added to SL Raids & Dungeons, making them significantly easier to do.

World Bosses

  • All SL World Bosses will be up at once from now on.

Castle Nathria

  • The skip quest now only requires one Sludgefist kill.
  • Soul Infusion no longer has a cooldown during the Sun King’s Salvation encounter.
  • The Council of Blood will no longer pressure you to perform the Danse Macabre.

Sanctum of Domination

  • The skip quest now only requires one Kel’thuzad kill.
  • Remnant of Ner’zhul’s Malevolence will no longer knock players back.
  • Painsmith Raznal’s Spiked Balls no longer stun players.
  • Fatescribe Roh-Kalo will no longer perform Realign Fate when solo.
  • Fixed an issue that caused Kel’thuzad to reset if all players are in Kel’thuzad’s Phylactery.
  • Sylvanas will now be able to drop more than one Vengeance.

Sepulcher of the First Ones

  • The skip quest now only requires one Anduin kill.
  • The Jailer will now be able to drop more than one Zereth Overseer.
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blizzard hire this person

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Valithria Dreamwalker can already be skipped. Simply walk around her and proceed to the elevator.

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I’ll be honest, my gut reaction at the title was ‘heck no’. However, these are well thought out and I’m surprised at how many I agree would be great additions.

I wouldn’t mind if there was a way to ensure a first run through is as is. There is so much story to be had, and interesting to see how fights have changed over the years and expansions. I think everyone should see it just once.

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But you don’t get her loot. This allows you to loot the rewards from her.

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why? whats wrong with making old raids soloable

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Not a bad list - though I very much doubt we’ll see such changes as long as the current crew is in charge of the game.

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Unfortunately…

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Good points I honestly did not read them All.But yes agree on the ones i skimmed over.

Since I did not grasp the whole post let me add from my own experiences as a Mog/Mount collectoor.

1.)Bonus rolls having anything but the loot icon on them needs to be a thing. The gold and that Outdated and honestly needing to be removed Wakening Essence and all of the Legion Legendaries from the vendor be a gold sink. Oh and to add a higher cap for Legion and BFA bonus rolls up to 10/20 like MoP was.Make em cost more I Don’t care as long as I get more odds of loot.

2.)Loot Bias when running old content.Example.I have ran Tomb of Sargeras. and after first 2 runs months ago.Granted they upped the mob drops so BoE’s from the Legion and some WoD raids (Not LFR sadly) are giving me some gold back for the wasted times.They Honestly need to make it so whichever armor type is running said content they get a bonus % baseline to obtain items they can transmog.

3),Skips.Garrosh Skip is great but I would of preffered a questline unlock like the Legion ones but hey I will take what they gave but they need to fix the force Disconnect that it does every single time (Apparently not even patched in 10.1.7 ptr as of right now(.Skips being added to Shadowlands wont and cant hurt.Same for BFA I want to push these skips for the sole purpose of Mounts not so much the transmogs off lfinal raid bosses.(Side not I think the Mount off garrosh is super buffed.I did my 6 runs this week and looted 2 on 2 different Warriors,Just sucks they don’t buff the Tusks or the Satyr shoulders which I will continue on next.

4.)Tusks of Mannoroth and First Satyrs Shoulders need to be changed to Force Loot like the 1h Mace from Tomb Of Sargeras (Maiden Boss) and the 3 Weapons from Antorus the Burning Throne (Red/Blue Scythe of the unmaker,Taeshalach). “Force Drop” means they are looted into you bags automatically once RNG rolls the dice for you.If these 2 Shoulders are turned into Force loot drop it would Free up people running these raids to do different classes and many more of there alts to skip to garrosh for the mount if that is all they want without fear of Tusks dropping (If they can even drop when no plate class runs it I don’t know).And same goes for the Satyr shoulders if other armor types are running for the nice sets there and the Illusion off of Xavius/Achievements etc.

5).BoE Epic drops that are integral to Finishing an armor set need a slight buff across the board.Mainly the WoD ones from Hellfire Citadel and Blackrock Foundry.They are a lot lower chance to obtain than Legion pieces and could benefit from a drop rate buff or to be incoorporated into the raids boss loot tables.

Thanks for your thoughs and apologize for not being a thorough reader and also If i posted exact or similar points of your’s or others.Just as passionate about this side of the game as most of you here and I want it to see more attention over blizzard just pumping out more boring stuff (All of Dragonflight so far has been meh well atleast since first patch beginning was good nwo its a Dud expansion and I don’t see it recovering),

Hopefully they change that 1 guy in charge out put a equally passionate person who is not a profit driven designer doing things for themselves and not doing it for the community.Cough Tier 3 BS that honestly made that guy a laughing stock along with all the whales who wasted gold on Tier 3 and cried to blizzard and made it more impossible than what they did to get the same garbage sets (Yes Tier 3 is garbage outside of 2 sets.Dreadnaught and the Warlock one the rest suck and are worse than all the vanilla tier sets even An’qiraj.)

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Pointer 4 is actually quite a good one. I completely forgot that the Xavius shoulders and similar are not push-personal, they really should be.

Ehhh I think the dev actually did pretty well with T3. All the rich people left the BMAH in favor of crafting it, so now I can get very cheap pieces from the BMAH. I got the full druid set last week for less than 800k, and I probably could’ve gotten it cheaper if I wasn’t impatient.

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Of danm theres a skip for chess event ? Maybe a i can finish my set now

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I’m trying to get some mogs from LFR Sepulcher and oh boy, isn’t it hard to find some people to do it… 40 minutes with a qeue up and you get a max of 5 people…
I can’t even Solo Anduin with my 447 Rogue.
Worst of all, the loot is random and also limited. If you have 5 people wih you, you’re getting one drop, which can be a trinket…

I really wish they at least nerfed that raid you know so you could at least bother to solo it yourself.

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No. There’s not. The OP is saying these should be implemented. It’s a wish list of sorts.

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No… we just wish there was.
I need so many mogs from Malchezaar…

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For me the most important changes are that BfA and Shadowlands Content is solo playable. But these are creative, nice wishes and I agree with them. Unfortunately, the likelihood of something like this happening is very slim.

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One can dream… and pray…

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This person legacy raids!

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I would gladly exchange a raid tier for these issues to be fixed.

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He is , but its rng.

Theres always a price to pay when you skip a boss

They’re not issues, annoyances, I’d say. But skip a raid tier for only that? Hell no.

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Would you just like the loot from every boss to spawn in a chest at the entrance of the raid too while you’re at it?