If the devs are so seriously unhappy with what they’ve made, I repeat what has been said time and time again: either pivot aug to tank spec or add a second support spec for a different class (demon hunters prime free real estate).
Constantly getting hit with the nerf bat doesn’t inspire subscription. Especially during the lull of an expansion.
Honest question: How do you think Demon Hunter mains feel, waiting for a third spec for the longest time, only for Blizzard to give them a support spec? Keep in mind, a vast majority of them play the class because of the Chad that is Illidan.
Additionally, if you give a support spec to another class, you’ll simply be imposing the Dev/Aug issue all over again, where players preferred Augmentation over Devastation. Imagine being a Havoc main for years and then being told to switch to the new OP support spec (since Blizzard cannot balance support specs) but refusing because you pump harder than the people you’re buffing—only to see:
[Insert player name here] has been removed from the group.
Frankly it’s not my class and I don’t particularly concern myself with its players’ feelings about a hypothetical. I was offering a solution, not the solution.
We completely disagree on the core issue of support classes even existing, and I’ve seen your posts enough in other threads to be disinclined to continue further and waste my own time. Cheers and good luck on vault.
Hypothetical or not, passing the buck onto another class is never the answer, especially if you don’t play that class. I would have expected Dev mains to be more compassionate and empathetic, given their own experience with being discriminated against in favor of Augmentation. Feral mains, for example, can absolutely relate to this struggle.
I’ve yet to see anyone offer a viable way to keep support specs in the game without major issues. Every time I ask how they could make it work, the responses are always the same rhetoric:
“Add a role solely for support specs and make it 2 DPS, 1 tank, 1 healer, 1 support. It’s time to change the holy trinity.”
Except this doesn’t take queue/wait times into account, which are already long enough. Adding another role would only make them worse.
It fundamentally breaks a core part of the game for an experiment that may not even work.
Simply removing the one support spec would yield a better return on investment than reworking the entire system in the hope that it works.
“Just add more support specs.”
Adding more support specs is not a solution.
All this would do is spread the Aug hate across multiple specs rather than fixing the issue itself.
At the end of the day, support specs just don’t fit into the current game design, and forcing them in creates more problems than solutions.
Likewise, I hope you find a good class to reroll or play Dev—the superior spec.
There are so many things that Blizzard could do to grow support specs in this game. The fact is that you simply don’t like them is the only real objection from you (and players like you), and frankly, it’s irrelevant. You aren’t playing this spec, and no one is forcing you to play with them.
If this really bothers you so much, go play something else. The myriad flavors of classic are right there for you
i agree aug isnt even worth nerfing as it only effects the top 1% its already not taken into raids and MDI its better to take another dps for speed. augs power only comes from its ability to be survivable and make others more survivable. i wouldnt mind a small hit to that and a buff to their damage. Also ignore Aitumi he is a troll and just loves to troll people
To be fair, the most likely candidate for a third DH spec based on the material they have to work with is some form of glaive-throwing spellbreaker, which traditionally stole magic buffs and recast them on allies in the RTS. It wouldn’t be outlandish as a theme for a support spec nor as a theme for a third DH spec, at least not compared to some of the other nonsense I see people suggest frequently.
But a support role is inherently a terrible addition to this game so any theoretical DH spec shouldn’t be one.
A support role would be a very good idea and can make dungeons+raids even more intresting.
Even some +old+ people who hates every change in games do not like it. Like some hunter-troll who hates supporters.
I hope they will bring it and i would love playing a support that just is nice in a group, don t need to be super op /mega dps…just like in older mmorpgs.
It can work here too <3 whatever some haters post here.
As someone who mained Aug for a season… Aug is one of the most toxic specs ever added to this game. It forces players to play a spec that no one asked for and that Blizzard clearly had no plan for when released. You should see this spec for what it is… It was designed by a someone with a half baked thought. It has no place in lower keys where they are worthless. They have no place in raids as they are too niche and wonky to pilot trying to stay in range of your buff targets. The only place they can find a home is in high end keys which in of itself cause more problems than it solves. As predicted, Blizzard is nerfing this spec into the ground and going to rework it into something else entirely. Blizzard’s poor planning with the idea of support specs was an experiment at best and one that failed pretty miserably. It is far easier to rework Aug into something else than add more “support” roles to the game. The experiment is over…Let this spec crumble and get over it.
The problem is there’s already too many problems forming groups. There’s too many DPS for the amount of willing tanks and healers in dungeon content. When one of those few DPS roles is now taken by a support spec that barely anyone plays despite it being too broken to ignore… it causes WAY more friction than its worth.
I’ve slowly come around to Blizz needing to nerf Aug into the ground, to the point where Deva is almost always the better option, but just have Aug be at a state where the 19 or so players who simply love the playstyle above all are able to do it and be viable enough.
If Blizz ever can fix the tank/healer shortage, then it’s worth revisiting.
Nerf or not. Happily enjoying Aug this season. Still getting accepted to groups. Playing the class as intended, “Support”. Whether that buffimg dps, offhealing, help with dispels, interrupts. Still going to hit 3k io get seasonal achievements. I’m no one special but I enjoy the spec considerably.
Blizzard needs to make buffing a minor component to Aug’s profile and revamp its talent tree and spells. The problem with a support class is that it’s like trying to balance a ball on top of an edge - either it’s incredibly under-powered because you are buffing low DPS amounts or poorly performing members, or you are grossly overpowered because your buffing high amounts of DPS on potentially god-tier players.
Bombardments is a great example of a good support ability, because it’s not a % boost and its DPS value isn’t as dependent as the performance of your teammates.
What I am ultimately saying is this:
If a % based support class is decent for average players, then it will be OP mandatory for top-end players. If a % based support class is balanced for top-end players, it will be severely underpowered for average players. Period
Honestly, I’d be super cool with Aug becoming a full DPS spec or spreading some support out there as a more regular thing to balance that way, but my preference would be Aug gets shifted to a tank.
Personally I think it’d be sick as hell for Aug to be the first technically-ranged tank (lets not pretend Pally and DK aren’t largely range too, they just don’t get the plaque), as well as the first tank to use int as a main-stat. Caster tanks’re neat! I used to play one way back in another very-much-now-defunct MMO. Could be cool, it’d keep the “hero” in the hero class by letting it remain somewhat unique.
Make it a tank spec like it should have been from the beginning and move on. The black dragonflight spec should never have been a bard that makes everyone stronger with the power of friendship.
But the reality is that they did a bad job at creating the spec.
I hope it will get a rework + 2-3 more support specs and a support-role.
Then finally we can play supporters who do not need to do mega dmg so be +good+/viable.