Hey if I want to do as little PVE as possible, and primarily do arena, which class is a good pick in Cataclysm?
I see there are legendaries for Rogues and Casters, so I think those are out of the running
In the past I’ve enjoyed healers, spriest, mage, rogue, and warlock.
I was thinking shaman or druid since they can’t be human? Removes the need for 1 pve trinket
Is cata DK as mongo as it is in wrath? Dark simulacrum looks fun
probably still casters tbh. especially dot based casters. shadow priest probably won’t benefit much from the leggo as dots cannot be reduplicated
You dont need the legendaries to be competitive. Every caster dps wants the staff, sure, & not every rogue will get daggers. Its ok to play any class in cata and skip pve entirely still getting duelist-glad range. Just gotta be better & work harder lol.
unless it was a change later on, yes dots do get the same benefit from the legendary as it’s technically a different “spell” getting shot out of the staff
hmm fascinating
nevermind me then
of course duelist, but glad without any pve gear i find surprising, especially on these dead ladders. Would you say pve gear plays less of a role in Cata than wotlk?
Not till MoP friend when they had the set bonus for using 2 pvp trinkets.
Sorry they completely gut and trash feral druid in cata. You’re either a cat or a bear not both… wtf.
I’ll never forgive them for this. Didn’t then, don’t now. Gotta stick to the buff/nerf rotation to keep people playing longer though!
They still haven’t given shifter druids in Diablo 2/resurrected enigma teleport.
And once cata comes they’ll lose quite a few customers bc they probably think wow classic is like the McRib- but it’s just not. Bliz will LOSE players when they lose wrath classic.
Meta on Pservers, 4.3.4 cata final patch,
you will have to do pve for almost every single class when firelands comes out, for the legendary items
Sub rogues are broken overpowered in cata, because of certain pve trinkets and weapons, they can kill you in a cheapshot.
Pre firelands, Feral druids, Ret pala, warlocks, ele/enhanc shamans, shadow priest(weak in cata no one really plays shadow p in 4.3.4) healers can all get away with all pvp gear, till firelands release.
eventually every class wants some pve gear, cata doesn’t really change in that regard from WOTLK, both expansions require some pve gear in arena.
You have no idea what your talking about, MM hunter, Feral druids, sub rogues, and ret paladins are the MOST OVERPOWERED CLASSES in pvp in cata, you are clueless
Bear is the BEST pvp defensive in the ENTIRE GAME, Feral is BUSTED in cata, it’s literally the best expansion out of every expansion in all existence for feral druid pvp, maybe WOD feral was as strong as well.
rogues don’t even use the legendary daggers, they get 2x nokaleds with the busted str trinket with the ww proc and 1 shot people, rogues require lot of pve gear. Your spreading false information.
You’re playing wow, gear matters a lot in these older versions of the game… Cata went back to the 1 shot meta, vs tbc/wotlk where games are super long, that won’t be the case in cata, there is tons of burst damage going on, and those who get the pve gear will 1 shot first…
Top comp in cata in 2s is sub rog/mm hunter… it’s not wotlk with 45 min long matches with healers/dps
Its called Caster-clysm for a reason. Go out there and blow stuff up. Boom kins really wreck…but then again… Cata is more than likely going to come out on a custom balance patch much like what we have now for Wrath so everything is going to be different and screwed up from before.
DoT ticks can be duplicated, and the proc chance is different for each spec, so it’s still BiS for Spriest.
Yes, 1000%.
Also the difference between duelist and glad is 2%
Idk cata was highest i ever was on rogue @2800 and did it with ZERO pve gear. Maybe the pserver meta has changed things, but I participated in each of the blizzcon tournaments & what you’re saying was not the case for rogues at that time.
S9 was VERY slow compared to even wotlk. Everyone has heals, kicks, more defensives. It was not a 1 shot meta at all lmfao the only angle you can even think that is with the very last season & WW DS trinkets(even LFR were usable). Everything you’re saying must have developed on pservers & again is only relevant for s11.
I agree those classes are the best. Imo mop feral was insano too
Holy Paladins are incredible in PvP/Arena in cata, and you dont need pve gear. They’re actually more powerful in Cata than they are in Wotlk… its just that other classes at now at their level unike wotlk.
I don’t recall PvE gear being a thing until DS (aside from the staff).
This is my memory as well. Everything Tiamat said is only relevant for s11 and even still not “required” imo.
Thank you everyone for the insights and knowledge