Why are people still learning dungeon basics in 23-25 keys? Just happened on my poor Resto Shaman, you’re making everyone’s lives miserable by being incompetent. Quit being carried by your broken meta spec and try learning something.
Be better.
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I don’t wanna learn. I want to easy time cause my class is op. Don’t need to do mechanics!
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Because when things are one shots, it’s still easy to fail that check since all it takes is a misstep.
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if i were targeted by a deadly mechanic i would simply execute it perfectly to avoid death 
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Pretty sure that almost everyone doing 23+ keys knows the mechanics. Knowing mechanics and playing perfectly are not the same thing.
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Hmm I’m not sure about that. Had a range dps get hit by every Avalanche, never once tried to pre move, aswell as baiting the Crystals out into range instead of behind the last boss so the adds get instantly stunned, and the melee can do damage during the LoS damage in Nelths Lair.
Tanks not even attempting to stack the totems on the 2nd boss, or instantly stun the giant when crystals are baited properly.
The most consistent offender I’ve had are spriests not popping Dispersion on an add and chain lightning overlap on Asaad.
I don’t care if you don’t play perfectly, but when you’re failing basic mechanics, then that’s an issue.
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So they played badly. People doing +6s know what avalanche does.
Failing mechanics is not the same thing as not knowing the mechanics.
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When they’re doing it consistently the line start to blur.
Did a 22 FH on my aug where the bear tank had no idea that the trash pack before the final boss pulled with the final boss if not killed separately.
Tank legit thought the group was trolling him, pulling the pack to wipe the group.
You would think in a 22, people would know you can’t pull the boss without killing that pack.
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nah it’s wild out there. i saw a 3k tank recently who didn’t know how bolstering worked.
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These people pay for there rating and then try to play at that level
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Whays your point here? “They arent stupid they are just bad”? Is it really better to think these people are refusing to do mechanics rathen that not knowing them?
This OP is an oscar meijer hot dog. Talking about people using survival cooldowns when HE wants them to use them. Mayhaps its already on CD because they needed it.
The mentality of save your personals for X event is moot. If you always have to save it for something specific there are a few factors at play:
The most obvious being an overtuned mechanic, the less obvious aspect is by being forced to hold the CD you cant reliably use it when its meant to be used. (When you want a personal to not die.) What I mean is, if they have to hold it for X event, then don’t complain thats its notbused or on CD during Z event.
Also: Stop running high keys with entire pugs and expecting coordination of a discord group.
One last point: As OP attacked players for being a meta spec… You invited them because of that reason -.-
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You are not wrong. I have found many many players refuse to downgrade the key at the NPC because… It upgrade 3 levels must mean i am able to do it. (My group messed my key up and failed it)
There is nothing wrong for players to remain within their upgrade bracket for a few weeks. Aka if you can still use 11-15 currency tp upgrade… They shouldnt be in higher 20s.
Gamers in general now a days want to run before they can even crawl. (Its mostly on us.)
Hyper inflated io, hyper inflated ilvl. Gear this season was far too easy to get.
It’s especially bad when you can hit 70. Make a full set of 408 gear puts you to 405ish. Go do LFR and get all your sparks. Make all that gear at 424 and you’re pushing 420 ilvl in a couple hours after 70. Get a few friends to take you through Dawn and you’re going to be 425-430 the same day you hit 70 with a 447 weapon. Then, depending on your class/spec, you might just get insta invited to Wyrm keys for sure maybe even Aspect keys having not done a single key on the character.
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Yeah, definitely needed to pop their defensive CD AFTER the damage had been done. The amount of times this happens in a dungeon is insane. Watching the timers isn’t just for the tank and healer, it’s a DPS job too.
It’s not about expecting top tier communication, it’s about knowing basic mechanics. You shouldn’t need to be told to stack the totems or bait the add spawn, move out of avalanche or don’t stand on the tank.
I expect most pug keys to go poorly over mistimed/stacked stuns or stops, not easily avoidable damage or poorly manipulated add spawns.
Sure did, and based on that and their experience in previous keys I expected more, instead they were just your below average meta chasers.
Sorry not sorry
The point is that people make mistakes, and it’s pretty stupid to act like people are “refusing to learn” rather than just accepting that nobody plays perfectly all the time.,
This thread stinks of elitism. On top of it created by an ezvoker
For sure Elitism. Not just someone sick of boosted chimps joining higher keys with their bought scores, knowing absolutely nothing about the dungeon.
You could call me an elitist if I were raging over this in +5-10 keys where people are still learning. I guess it’s just fun to throw that word around when you’re feeling singled out by these kinds of posts 
It’s nothing to do with what they’re playing, everything to do with what they’re getting wrong mechanically. Playing meta is fine, just don’t be boosted.