Layering Crunch. Increased queues

[Jessabrina-thrall]

In preparation for phase 2, when each realm will be single layered. Blizzard is reducing the number of layers allowed on each realm.

If each layer has a 3000 population max, as per Vanilla standard. Then each layer removed will drop the realms cap by 3000.

Any realms that have queues will see the queues increase by 3000 every time a layer is removed.

Edit: sources for noobs who “know-it-all” but haven’t read at all.

LAYERING IS NOT HERE FOR YOUR QoL. THAT IS NOT ITS INTENDED PURPOSE. LAYERING IS FOR REALM HEALTH AND STABILITY FOR LONG TERM.

@Kaivax

Please also note that our realm population estimates of Low, Medium, High, and Full are based on this increased capacity – a Medium realm today already has more characters on it than even the most crowded realms did back in 2006.

[Blastmaster-netherwind]

Source? Layering isn’t changing the amount of players on the realm, it’s changing the amount of players you can interact with at a single time.

[Rickaonec-rattlegore]

We have more players it’s not layering this is a good thing, the game is growing. Rattlegore was full last night. LaYerS BaD.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Layering isn’t changing the amount of players on the realm, it’s changing the amount of players you can interact with at a single time.

Where’s your source?
I’ll make an edit to my post with mine. But you shouldn’t ask for sources while speaking definitively, and not having sources of your own.

Source?

[Rickaonec-rattlegore]

Blizzard said it 100x dummy

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Blizz said what exactly?

[Rickaonec-rattlegore]

Layers divide the pop by 3 not increasing it. Server pop stays the same.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Layering isn’t changing the amount of players on the realm,

Layers divide the pop by 3 not increasing it. Server pop stays the same.

Yeah it does, BTW. Blizz overstocked the realms in order to prep for population decline. Thats the entire reasoning behind layering. Not as QoL, but as Realm health

Seriously you guys… theres Blue posts about it. Try reading a bit before coming up with false conclusions

[Blastmaster-netherwind]

Where’s your source?
I’ll make an edit to my post with mine. But you shouldn’t ask for sources while speaking definitively, and not having sources of your own.

Source?

Starts at about 4:30.

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

@Blastmaster-netherwind

Source? Layering isn’t changing the amount of players on the realm, it’s changing the amount of players you can interact with at a single time.

@Kaivax

While we are able to fit several times more players on a single realm in 2019 than was the case in 2006, we are not going to raise that cap any further, even though we have the technical capacity to do so. Raising realm caps would simply forestall the problem, letting more players in at launch but creating an unsustainable situation down the line, with severe queues when we turn off layering permanently before Phase 2 of our content unlock plan.

if what you said is true, why did the blue say they expect bigger queues when layering is removed?

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

@Rickaonec-rattlegore

Layers divide the pop by 3 not increasing it. Server pop stays the same.

false. blizzard literally said themselves that when layering is gone, the server queues will be even more extreme on some servers.

@Kaivax

While we are able to fit several times more players on a single realm in 2019 than was the case in 2006, we are not going to raise that cap any further, even though we have the technical capacity to do so. Raising realm caps would simply forestall the problem, letting more players in at launch but creating an unsustainable situation down the line, with severe queues when we turn off layering permanently before Phase 2 of our content unlock plan.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

Thank you holymirax. I have trouble trying to find what im looking for on these forums. I do a search and I find a bunch of people confused and not knowing what they’re talking about

[Holymirax-ashkandi]

in his own words “in order to soft absorb an impact of a tremendous amount of players initially”.
what part of that doesn’t sound like trying to put more people on each server?

oh and if what you say is true. why when layering is removed do they expect insane queues?

@Kaivax

While we are able to fit several times more players on a single realm in 2019 than was the case in 2006, we are not going to raise that cap any further, even though we have the technical capacity to do so. Raising realm caps would simply forestall the problem, letting more players in at launch but creating an unsustainable situation down the line, with severe queues when we turn off layering permanently before Phase 2 of our content unlock plan.

[Jessabrina-thrall]

@Kaivax

Please also note that our realm population estimates of Low, Medium, High, and Full are based on this increased capacity – a Medium realm today already has more characters on it than even the most crowded realms did back in 2006.

Its plain to see, if you’d do a bit of lite reading

[Deathtrip-kromcrush]

Layering absolutely affects the number of people that can be on a server. As Holymirax posted. This is easily inferred from Blizzard’s post.

[Romulus-kurinnaxx]

I have serious doubts that layer removal will be practical at phase 2. The plan for phase 2 was, “they think they do but they don’t, so the servers will be dead by phase 2 and we can removez deh layering”

[Jessabrina-thrall]

They are prepping and removing some layers quite soon.

Its the only reason they’d be offering realm transfers off of realms that don’t have queues. Because they’re expecting the now queue less realms, to have queues when there’s fewer layers.

[Derka-sulfuras]

I have serious doubts that layer removal will be practical at phase 2.

It’s going to get to a point where you either wait in an absurd queue or transfer to a low pop realm like they’re asking us to do now well ahead of time. Those are going to be the two options. World bosses don’t work with layering and nodes/spawns would be unable to sustain 10,000 concurrent players.