Finally both spec are pretty much similar .. switched to annihilator today and it feels way better dps wise than it did start of s2 !!
Feel like i can switch between both now without losing a ton of dps . Hopefully the 12.2.5 patch changes wont break this close and nice balance in between both devourer hero spec !!
Far from it, we were still almost 6% behind in St. Most fights in raid are St, playing anni on any of those fights is trolling your raid team
I mean did you check after todays tuning ? It pushed annihilator above VS for all content .. and 12.2.5 patch will nerf VS even more with how they messed up hunt reset ..
Most raid fight arent ST , they either with adds or cleave with 2-3 bosses 
i think your not raiding if you think so. Its better for m+ but it was already like that. Next Patch we cant say much we dont know tier but even on ptr st seem to be vs but there still lots of tunning to be done.
Yea for next patch we cant say .. but for now annihilator just does more than VS in all content outside low m+ key and lfr … not that i mind tbh ..i like both hero spec ..
and its not i aint raiding .. sims say so .. annihilator does more for all content compared to VS after latest changes ..
Nope Sim do say Anni is behind vs by 6% In St like i said Any fight that is St Vs is ahead otherwise your right in Aoe anni is ahead and i double checked sim and Parse/logs it say what im saying.
For normal/heroic Doesnt really matter but if your Raiding Mythic 6% is alot
Annihilator is now the de facto option for M+, although it was mostly adopted at high levels due to its AOE damage. The buffs to ST to Star and Consume/Devour make its ST a lot better, pushing it above VS at all levels.
Doesn’t change much in raid, although Annihilator is much more viable in raid if you prefer the playstyle, and might now be the preferred option for Turtles
i mean sim say so .. changes happened today .. do your research . both wowhead , icy veins and method sims say so ..
Edit: im open to discussion if you have sites or proof to quote that annihilator is still 6% behind .. not logs since we day 1 of the change ..
Go look the Dh discord your wrong. Cs buff isnt enough for St to be better than Vs
so your retort is go on discord ? when sims is mine ? most raid boss have adds . or are a 2-3 cleave fight ..
Edit: no disrespect but i fail to find your proof that VS is still the better choice currently .. wish it was because i finally got used to it .. remember this is just a discussion and i apologize if i ever sound rude .. it wasnt on purpose or meant ^^ hence why all your reply got a like and will keep that like ..
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Keep in mind sim arnt everything Vs line up better for most fight. in raid there what 4 fight st and 5 if you dont pad on add that instant die (vashnik) in most of these fight vs line up better. i would say only turtle/twin fang Anni is the way to go cant say for Uwu not on him yet on mythic but burst line up fine for vs so far in heroic
you do Know the discord Sim everything its not done by people with no clue of the class. you have to take wowhead with a grain of salt and like i said Sim are done on dummy in real fight you have to move do mechanic best exemple is turtle if your tank are bad both boss wont be stack most of the time which make anni bad or if people dont do the blink right that also unstack boss or make them almost immune to dmg which can break your burst
True but if you look at my profile my s2 progress is steady cuz i run raid and m+ with guild , so what happens is somewhat controlled ..
And so far for heroic and m+ annihilator did better for me .. maybe gear/stats or how im used to playing it from s1 ..
For me they currently similar in results
As I mentioned earlier, it doesn’t matter in Heroic. however, in Mythic, There lots of Dps check when your not Geared or people dying . For M+, I only play Anni except on keys like >10 because i know the tank won’t be pulling much and everything is dying so fast. Because I adore Anni, I do hope it get improves for St. I do a little bit of everything on the side, including raiding, M+, and PvP.stats wise its pretty much the same thing just a bit more haste on anni than vs
Yea but before this patch VS was on top by a small margin .. but now they closer .. didnt think it was still behind .. but i also like annihilator .. VS feels right in pvp tho ..
In mythic plus even before that patch anybody doing key higher than 15 are playing anni. Since we do big pull it make the spec way better and less dangerous for aoe and puddle xD i think that buff just make it that we can play it earlier like 12+
Annie is not ahead in all content, and is still 6% behind in ST (a much narrower gap than before). VS still fares better on most encounters in the raid. Annie was doable in m+ before the buffs and is now a much better choice even at lower key levels.
In 12.1.5 with current tuning, annie and VS will be roughly equal. Though annie will probably be the go-to in most encounters as it’s less punished by mechanics than VS. Especially with the upcoming QoL updates (i wish they pushed those with the hotfixes)
Anni DH barely changed at all in raid it’s still way behind everything else, it’s only good fights is twin fangs and explorers, that’s it. kinda funny how they buffed demo lock from bottom to top 3, and now unh an frost but gave devourer a pity buff and probably is gonna stay like this for a while
Your mistake is trying to find logic on Blizzard actions.
Anni prob better on Uwu also (mythic) with how mechanic are design im pretty sure Vs would feel bad