Could the dragonborn take on the dragon aspects, including Deathwing?
Im assuming dragonrend works for this, the fights between each Aspect and the DB are 1v1s and that all the aspects are pre Dragon Soul raid, btw.
Would still need the mcguffin to kill DW.
Thats what dragonrend would be for, im imagining a shadow of the colossus type boss fight
actually it would be ineffective since after all the dragonrend was not a real shout merely one artificially created by the nords of old and as such wasn’t actually as powerful as they lead us to believe due to the knowledge of it lost to the ages
even with the power the best the nords that created it could do was stun alduin and use the elder scrolls to banish him to the depths of time thinking he would be forever lost trapped on the currents
Dragonrend worked just fine. The problem was the three nord heroes themselves were not powerful enough to do the deed.
When DB uses it in the throat of the world he sends Alduin home with his tail between his legs.
And even afterwards when Alduin buffs up for one last big apocalyptic punch up the same 3 nord heroes who couldnt beat Alduin before win because DB was there.
The last Dragonborn went on to become even more powerful in the last dlc after beating Miraak.
Its a similar deal with Superman and kryptonite, just bc you have it you’re not gonna be able to ez clap Supes- he’s still the man of steel
yeah that’s what I was saying the 3 of them were not the chosen ones destined to defeat him the fact the DR was not actually created like the other shouts didn’t help but honestly alduin could’ve already been on his deathbed and they wouldntve been able to defeat him it wasn’t their place or destiny to do so which is why the elder scrolls merely dropped him off in the DBs time
Well… it might work on one of them, but it’s not so much an area effect kind of thing. It effects a Dragon, in which time I suspect that the fully empowered remaining Dragons would have ample time to take care of him.
They weren’t actually Dragonborn, to be fair. Dragonborn is distinct from learning Words. The Greybeards are not Dragonborn, they just study the way of the Voice. The ancient nord heroes were not Dragonborn, either.
I suspect a counter point to this is that the Dragons on Azeroth do not garner their power from their immortality per se. The Dragon Aspects were mortal prior to their organization by the Titans as far as we know. So I’m not sure that being informed of mortality would necessarily do anything to them.
I’m not saying that Dragonrend wouldn’t have an effect, but rather that whatever effect it had would be minimized I suspect. The Dragon Aspects are still incredibly power beings after having given up their immortality, so I’m not sure that it would be evening the playing field all that much.
All in all, I’d put my money on the Dragon Aspects. Dragonborn might get one of them, however his tool kit is pretty important to consider. Assuming that we’re putting them all into a “we’re actually rolling up our sleeves” kind of fight, I’m not sure that the Dragonborns skillset counters the Aspects.
What does the Dragonborn do, for example,
- If Ysera pulls him into the Emerald Dream and leaves him there? What skills does he have to get back?
- If Nozdormu sends him rattling through time in a plane where Elder Scrolls are meaningless.
- If Malygos does anything interesting at all?
When we, the players, have fought an Aspect, it is often with specific and precise assistance. We used the Focusing Iris to smack Deathwing, but… Dragonborn wouldn’t have that. Even if he could get a Dragon onto the ground, how does he contend with something the size of Deathwing himself?
I think that, in practice, a WoW dragon is often portrayed as very different than a Skyrim dragon, but also much more powerful in terms of just physically fighting one. Dragonborns only claim to fame, in practice, is that he’s the only one who can “kill” a dragon truly, but that’s not true of Azeroth’s dragons. They’ve had to contend with people bothering them all the time, and these dragons can wield all the same weapons, spells, and techniques that he can.
Which is to say that if Dragonborn can conjure a magical shield, so can Malygos. If Dragonborn can set stuff on fire, so can Alexstrasza. If Dragonborn can peer through time using an artifact, well Nozdormu doesn’t even need one.
The Aspects are not confined to Dragon breath and draconic fighting techniques, and that’s where the Dragonborn would find trouble. He’s not going to be used to an enemy that’s orders of magnitude more resistant to magic and damage in general, who can also wield magic, armies, and wear special armor and weapons.
Let’s also, just as aside, make sure that Dragonborn can’t quicksave mastery or eat 319 pounds of apples in between strikes.
I actually loled.
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Well… it might work on one of them, but it’s not so much an area effect kind of thing. It effects a Dragon, in which time I suspect that the fully empowered remaining Dragons would have ample time to take care of him.
I mean, yeah, obviously- if WoW teaches us anything is no matter how powerful you are, you can still get ganked. I guess i should have been more specific in my OP and will edit it to avoid further confusions:
The fights between each Aspect and the DB are 1v1s.
My theory going into this that if a Dragon Aspect gets hit with Dragonrend they would become similar to their post Cata selves- meaning vulnerable and somewhat weaker- for the minute or so it lasts but how a warcraft aspect reacts to it varies between each one:
-With Deathwing its just the same deal as Sovngarde Alduin, just make him vulnerable to attacks but i doubt it could force him to land.
-Im not sure how it would work for Ysera tbh.
-With Alex it should be the same as a skyrim dragon, i imagine that the aspect of life getting hit with weaponized mortality would be enough to throw her off her game enough to force her down.
-Nozdormu imo would get hit the hardest, bronze dragons are the closest thing in warcraft to skyrim dragons.
Yeah, i admit this is honestly the biggest hurdle here. Since DB could be anything from a mememaster stealth archer to a total scrub with the wrong perks and gear its hard to pinpoint just how strong he is.
Yeah, TES protags deal with that kind of thing all the time so im not particularly worried, imo Ysera’s best chance is sicking Malf on the DB- they’d have a better chance.
Nozdormu vs DB would get down on who gets serious and uses their trump card first, after that its an one-shot.
Yeah, malygos could ez clap just about anything if he really wanted to.
If the shadow of the colossus kid could manage, i imagine DB could too.
The rest of your post is 100% right and i have nothing to say in response, thanks for posting!.
My Dragonborn was an argonian because they are the master race in elder scrolls. The argonian Dragonborn would make love instead of war with deathwing. Imagine the beautiful hatchlings.
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