Lack of hard CC on MM feels awful

Classes Hunter
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The CC on hunters as far as pvp goes is horrific

Traps are fun in PvE but in PvE they are just not keeping up with the rest of the classes CCs

Monks have an incap on a 30 second CD with decent range that is player targetable
DHs have the same thing (don’t know the CDs on it)
Rogues have blind and sap and enough stuns
Paladins seem like they spam 6 second stuns every 6 seconds (gross exaggeration I know)

Then we have freezing trap that cross CCs with scatter shot, requires set up, misses a lot of the time (I know this is an L2P issue but lord) as well as minor summons walking all over them and sucking them up

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What do you mean mm doesnt need a pet. right now they really do need a pet if u dont wanna get crowed controlled. i understand what u mean thinking but right now mm does need a cunning pet for situations u might be in. if that is a dk that grabs you and slows u the only way out is disngage then master’s call.

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Plus if they do remove the ability to have a pet out for mm hunters they will need to do some changes to the spec entirely to compensate the lack of mobility they took from the mm spec.

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Can you even understand english language, honestly? You even quoted me in your reply - and still you didn’t understand what I wrote.

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ur like the left you cant even . ur literally have zero levels to ur pvp. do u realize that we can check ur character and it literally says level like 2 with pvp. ive understand what u said but what u say will never happen.

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Come on now, you are clearly the one with reading comprehension issues.

MM’s base kit is 100% pet-agnostic. None of your primary abilities require a pet to function (contra BM with their entire kit sans Barbed/Cobra/Multi, or SV requiring a pet for Kill Command, and both specs requiring a pet for Intimidation).

And bringing up politics in already one of the most toxic forums on here? For shame.

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Get on a real toon or go away!

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you sit and talk about mm hunter not having any stuns but the burstieness of the spec it doesnt need any at all. to me pets are viable for mm hunters. if you REMOVE them your losing a lot of potential mobility from the cunning pet family PLUS roar of sacrifice for damage reduction. i don’t care that you played vanilla wow or what ever u started in there is a very good reason as to why right now there never going to give back those stuns. If blizzard gave back stuns to mm hunters they would absolutely have to nerf the burstieness which would kill the spec. Plus im sure someone will probably agree with me that removing pets from the spec would remove the class identity.

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I kinda wish there was a glyph or something optional that made ice trap a targeted ability instead of placed. It often takes 2 gcds to ensure you actually land it. And oftentimes even then it will miss or a pet/minion will eat it instead.

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The ability to swap Freezing Trap for Freezing Arrow (or have both, on a shared CD) would be really nice.

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I wish I could use my EU character to participate in US forums, but Blizzard loves segregation. What would that change anyway?

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I would love to see roar of sacrifice baseline
and have freezing arrow as an honor talent
Though i’d prefer scatter shot being disorient DR again so we can scatter > trap but they really don’t want us to have that for some god forsaken reason, even thhough survival can harpoon > trap or stun > trap with ease

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Yes it is. BM can use the stun to Ice Trap somebody, but MM can’t. You have Scatter Shot, but it’s on the same DR is Ice Trap, so its hard to trap somebody without a fair bit of luck.

It’s just another core class ability that has been nerfed without any thought at all to how it impacted the class.

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I’ll give you that, but BM doesn’t have the burst that MM has. Earlier in this thread we also proved MM hunter has a pretty decent representation in 3v3s, so they are already above average compared to most other specs.

The real question is if you give MM a stun would it put them well into the OP category? Seems so, unless other aspects of the spec gets toned down to compensate. Those other aspects are what make the spec fun though IMO, the stun isn’t needed right now.

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The argument of being afraid to add something out of fear of it making a class OP doesn’t stand as long as convoke stays the way it is.

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That is the reason nobody is playing it. Any DPS spec without burst is at a severe disadvantage right now. If that’s gone, everybody will be forced into SV again.

I like having a realistically competitive ranged hunter spec since I rolled a ranged class when I rolled my Hunter.

I agree. I don’t think they need a stun right now. They do need Scatter Shot working properly though. Scatter Trap is a defining characteristic of Hunters, and it needs to work.

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You say that, but the moment a spec is way above the others blizz has a tendency to swing the nerf bat hard. Unless you’re a rogue, they are allowed to have an OP PvP spec every expansion for some reason.

Pally and DK took a solid hit and I expect changes in the future to convoke to bring it closer to the other covenants.

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I would walk away before you make yourself look more ridiculous.

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How so? This entire thread I have advocated for buffing the other hunter specs to bring them in line with MM. Why keep asking for greater utility to one of the already top specs when the time can be spent to make BM and survival not trash?

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Here’s a solid buff to all three specs: Ice Arrow. Give it a short cast time if necessary, or a stationary requirement to use. Freezing trap as a projectile can go away. Hey, while we’re at it, can we make Tar Trap a 10 yard radius again? Also a solid buff to all three specs’ utility.

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