Edit: Alright, I give up. I get it: Everyone in game is rich and anyone who isn’t is just a lazy person who doesn’t know what they’re doing. I was hoping to have a constructive conversation, but it’s hopeless with this community.
I know that BFA isn’t the pinnacle of WOW design (though I still had a lot of fun), but I think one major reason for people leaving has been overlooked - lack of gold.
For example, I’m someone who almost always stayed subbed, and that reason was gold. It was always great to be able to earn more gold in each consecutive expansion and buy all the fun stuff from the previous expansion.
And then came BFA. Not only is it very difficult to make any gold, but for many they have to watch their limited gold supply dwindle weekly. Even during the lulls during MOP, WOD, and Legion, there were always ways to make gold. And many people I knew stayed subbed just to make that gold.
But now in BFA, gold making is a huge pain in the rear end and the prices are beyond insane. And they keep jacking up the prices on new mounts, toys, etc. With professions, missions, world quests, and materials market all gutted, the few options left to make gold are not fun and not rewarding.
My time is running out in game and everyone on my friend list has gone dark. But I truly think this deflation they’re trying has been damaging to the game. It’s fun making gold and buying stuff. I just wish Blizz understood that still.
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People are quitting because they can’t grind gold and trick it off?
Let’s agree to disagree.
If I had to rank not having enough gold as the reason for people quitting it’d be dead last
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I knew a lot of people that did nothing but collect gold during the down times between patches. Those people are all gone now.
I knew other people who made gold just to buy cool transmogs. Those people are also gone now.
What I’m trying to say is that gold was a great incentive to stay subbed when you ran out of other things to do. Now that you can’t grind gold effectively, those people will leave.
Heck, I’m really casual these days, but I always enjoyed making gold. Now I’m unsubbing for the first time since WOTLK.
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What did these people do prior to WoD? The methods for gold making in prior expansions still exist, you just can’t 1 button farm millions of gold with no effort anymore. Really, WoD and Legion spoiled people on gold making.
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It’s the new era of ultimate greed, my dude.
Why sell a store mount and look greedy when you can disguise said store mount being a rep mount that goes for roughly 75% of a WoW token and NOT look greedy?.
Some of my more casual friends are heavily considering getting 1 or 2 tokens to get 1 or 2 mounts “plus some pocket gold for other stuff since I’m a bit short now”. These playes had never even considered buying store items, but now that they’re adding a steep gold req (for the ultimate casual players) ALONGSIDE a rep grind, it feels like the ultimate greedy move from actiblizz. #NotSurprised
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Are you sure it isn’t lack of content that’s making them quit, too?
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I made a ton of gold in Cata and MOP with dailies and professions. That really doesn’t exist anymore.
You can’t make anything from professions right now since everything but alchemy is obsolete.
And the most expensive mount in WOTLK was 10k and dailies gave 10-20 gold each. The most expensive mount in BFA is 5 million and world quests give 100ish gold. That’s a big difference
Edit: Corrected price of mount.
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OK, agreeing to disagree.
I had paid my sub with my ingame gold since the start of tokens. However, I recently had to decide whether to stop playing or start paying.
You say there are a lot of reasons people would quit - but that is exactly the point. People judge a product as to whether its worth paying for it. If it gets down to them having to start paying for a sub off their credit card instead of earning gold for it, then that could be a major deciding factor.
Only a stubborn optimism has made me choose to start paying a sub again as my gold ran low. There may well be many others who made the other choice.
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Not true.
Spider is 3 mil, brutosaur is 5 mil.
Anyways… this is why i quit in wod. Profession system was gutted and that was it for me… and well the dungeons while trying to level…there was like 2 or 3.
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Shoot. You’re right. My bad. That makes it even worse, though. Lol
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I don’t have this problem, I don’t play the AH game or do any kind of heavy repetitive farming and still buy a wow token every 2 weeks.
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I’m sure many players are leaving from lack of content. But even in the content droughts of WOD, many people kept playing to make gold. I think it was foolish of Blizzard to gut all the gold making avenues and expect everyone to start buying tokens.
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And here I thought it was a lack of a fun game that was driving players away.
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How in the world do you do that? I run a few old raids, do most of the dailies, and don’t come anywhere close to that.
Feel like sharing your secret?
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Your lack of evidence is disappointing. Not surprising though.
EDIT: Making wild claims is not the best way to drive an opinion. Why don’t you just say you disagree with current gold making vs. say mount prices like other threads currently rolling the GD? That might get more traction than this.
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I ran a couple of IEs with my friend a few days ago. Had two greens drop. Both sold for over 38,000g each.
If that’s too RNG, you could go dig up clockwork gnome and sell it, or go farm other pets that sell for a lot. There’s also abundance of herbs and ore that sell for a good price per stack, since a lot of players are too lazy to go get it themselves.
running old raids and selling drops, creating a DH twink to sell freehold runs, fishing for rare drops, checking the AH for rare items you can farm to sell. this game has so many options for making gold, it’s crazy to me that people still complain about being broke.
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Ah, I’m on a server with much lower AH prices. Not much moves on my AH like those things. And there’s zero market for materials like ores and herbs.
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Paragon caches drop ~4000g each every 10k rep. About a third of my token funds just come from doing emissaries on my (human) main.
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Just buy a WoW token. It’s how Blizz loses millions of subs and then gets more money out of the existing subs.
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I was on a dead server during legion. When 8.1.5 dropped and services were on sale, paid 400k to move 4 characters and started leveling characters I didn’t bring.
I really wish Blizzard would consider doing more realm connects, but it seems like they’re no longer interested in doing so.
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