Apparently, a bug with spell reflect allowed you to take on ?? version of Ky’veza in under one minute. It has been fixed.
Well, exploit early and often. We know that those whom exploit early do not see consequences. The easiest fix for this would be to remove the awards and feats of strength, achievements for players whom used this “creative use of in-game mechanics”.
I don’t think a ban is appropriate for it.
I guess that’s why there’s no achievement (at least for the ? version. I haven’t been the ?? yet).
But from what I can tell, there’s not much of a gear requirement. I bet if somebody can handle the required reaction times, and keep it up for however long it takes to burn through her HP, it can be done without exploit.
I think the problem at current gear levels is the unavoidable damage from the rifts. Maybe a DK could do it with AMS.
That’s not a bug with spell reflect, that’s an oversight by Blizzard.
The spell is working as intended and the players were using it for its intended purpose, to reflect spells.
They should not be punished for Blizzard’s incompetence.
But let’s be real, anyone trying Ky’veza this early and figuring it out that quick would probably down the fight normally without much issue.
I killed Ky’veza ? legit no cheese in 668 trash gear no embellishments, set pieces, and barely any enchants.
I doubt it. This exploit lets you skip the hard mechanics. It’s doable today if you can do the hard mechanics reliably for a long time, and repeatedly survive the unavoidable damage. She has a billion health, so that’s a long time to keep it up. It’s theoretically possible, but fairly inhuman.
Edit: yeah Commander Data could totally do it.
Oh I’m not saying they’d be able to beat her today, just that they would certainly down her within the season.
Might as well be a bagillion gillion rillion amirite?
Spell did what it should do.
lol.
It’s nothing novel.
It’s not even creative though. It does what it did, because Blizz didn’t override it.
The “??” mode for Kyveza is probably the hardest nemesis boss they’ve done. With more gear the unavoidable melees might be less of a problem but the actual mechanic execution needed to do this is a cut above anything we’ve seen.
I misunderstood, apologies.
This fight is absolutely hellish for casters, I would like to be one of the first to get it down but I think it’s tanks and DK / Ret only right now.
Btw guys the achievements aren’t even technically active yet until next Tuesday. I didn’t get squat!
The “??” one is, the “?” one isn’t.
I had to switch to fire on my mage which isn’t even doing numbers right now because it’s the only way I could keep enough damage going out to get it done within a reasonable amount of time. Barely any time to plant and cast. Really looking forward to ?? though, definitely my favorite nemesis so far
“?” Wasn’t too too bad, mainly because those are exactly the daggers we dealt with on the Mythic raid version so it was kinda familiar. “??” though you simply cannot cast at all or you die.
Well if you of all people are complaining about it I imagine this is probably the hardest delve boss by a mile. Will be waiting till 720+ to attempt, though from what I am seeing all the points of failure seem to hinge on just not failing mechanics that hit you for 50 million hp so maybe ilvl cannot cheese this other than making it faster.
Boreas of Honolulu EU has managed it as Shadow but that man is a world first level player and it took him 3 hours of solid attempts.
Every mechanic is a 1 shot, but on “??” the melees just shred you unless you have basically infinite self healing.
We’re removing kill credits and any rewards, such as the Delver’s Mana-Skimmer Schematic: Hyperdrive, from all accounts that exploited the bug.
We’ll complete the removals during scheduled weekly maintenance.
After playing around with ?? some I for sure think this fight is going to see some nerfs despite it being my favorite boss they’ve done so far. The mechanics are all VERY punishing, if I fail the track the right clone mechanic I die through immunity because of how much damage it’s putting out for example. I just don’t see it in it’s current state being that doable for the average joe although that does have some charm to it. Zekvir for example if you were geared you could quite literally tank some of the mechanics you were supposed to dodge and underpin mechancis were so lol. Fight is still way better than the last 2.
Thank you. It was disheartening to see the “exploit early, exploit often” crowd at work again with no penalty.
I managed to beat tier 1 earlier today, and all of her mechanics did twice my hp in damage or more, and only the daggers could be immunited with Aspect of the Turtle, so this will definitely be the case for both difficulties I think.
for whatever reason hunter pets can growl Ky’vesa, even tho i’m like 90% sure the other nemesis bosses were immune to it, and i had no trouble healing my pet through her auto attacks with good mend pet up time, and using Brann’s potions to keep my pet healed, so if you’re looking for a cheese that’s what i’d go with if you have a hunter. you still have to do the mechanics, but it lets you mostly ignore here melees and by extension her Reaper passive since everything else is just going to instant kill you, so your hp will never be low enough for it to proc. not sure how viable that strat would be in tier 2 tho, i don’t even have it unlocked yet.
…I hope they aren’t getting suspensions for that…