I’m starting to work my way up through KSM (AOTC first then KSM) and it really means nothing anymore.
So far out of the 4-5 keys that I’ve done that are 15-17 I’ve out DPS’d 1 or 2 people each time and out kicked them (not overly surprising) as a tank.
These people that I’ve done this to are KSM and geared.
How many of y’all are buying it?
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Hello, I see you posted a thread about KSM. A lot! Like, a lot a lot, haha! If a ton of people weren’t buying it all the time, we wouldn’t see anywhere near the number of advertisements in game for it!
Thanks for your post and have a great day!
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Did it ever mean anything?
Asking for a friend.

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It means you’ve reached that score, or done those dungeons. It never meant anything beyond that.
And to be clear, it was never meant to.
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I never even knew what it stood for nor cared
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It never really meant anything.
You get a cool mount, though.
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I mean it probably never meant “big pp energy” like some people seen to think. If it was only available in the first fortnight of a season, maybe.
There are definitely a lot more players doing sub-sub-par numbers in keys over 10 this expansion though. I’ve met people still doing 10-20k overall when the tank is doing 30-40.
I also ran into a prot warrior who managed to die twice to first pull of shadow moon +15 last week with the healer not afk.
Yea two dungeons (16 Ruby and 15 Shadowmoon) had a Arcane mage 2200 IO, 404 ilvl pulling 25k DPS and 0 interrupts… Lock 38k DPS. Just can’t even trust score anymore lol.
People wonder why we don’t go solely off IO score or bosses dead.
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Is this post fishing for a "Nerf DH or a golf clap?
I mean KSM is just 2k io… just basically means they have friends to play with or guildies to run with thats all … when you take those people into a pug out side of their friends environment they are not so good
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Nothing means any to info anymore everything is pay to win. People just gonna wait until end of season and pay for Carry’s like they usually do. It’s the same in PvP. That’s where blizz
KSM only requires timing 13s now.
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…the super-boring reward mount certainly isn’t helping 
They goofed hard with the mount reward this time. KSM mount is supposed to be something that “stands out” - not a boring/generic kodo-looking “common” NPC 
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KSM has never meant anything.
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I can’t even find the motivation to get Keystone mastery. It’s so boring this time
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The PvP seasonal mount is pretty cool actually the war saber. Better than the armoured bedbug from s3 SL
Wait til you get keystone Hero and invite 2600 rated DPS and then they eat 1 shot mechanics on azureblade, then 2 of 3 do literally 0 damage to crystals in last boss vault 20 bricking your key.
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People decked out in tier gear when it was rare in Vanilla WoW still could be terrible
Its been this way since the beginning of the game
There was one famous hunter back in the day who was a rank 14Grand Marshall and was always a free kill because he was so bad
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I’d say blame rdf/lfd…but this uses lfg lol.
What KSM means to you, will mean something different to another. When I hit 2k for the first time in legion arena it meant so much to me, but to others it would be another arena season. I’ve hit 2100 in shadowlands, and it meant so much to me then, to others it’s another arena season. What I’m getting at is, no one really cares if you did x or y, if it’s something that has worth to you, then it has worth.
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