Tried doing a key yesterday cause mine was unfortunately only a 12. The requirements that some of these groups have is actually appalling!! “link ksm for invite” , “220+ ilvl only!!!” , “2k+ RAIDER IO ONLY” lol!! 
And then people wonder why all the casuals have straight up quit this game.
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Nah. i dont see that at all for keys i pug.
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Nor do I…
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For every key like that, there are plenty of keys, at least Horde side, that don’t require all that. Sorry about your experience looking for groups.
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I see some of that, it’s always a good chuckle.
Just gotta keep applying. When I put a group together I know I am looking at io scores and the keys they have completed. I don’t really have issues joining pugs, though.
14’s and 15’s are still casual content.
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On the other end of the spectrum, I have had people less than 1K io in the pug group I joined after checking once the +14 key was done.
These are the groups that want to fill their vault quickly and not have to carry people.
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didnt say it wasnt. That’s why im just baffled by the requirements of some of these groups. I was doing 14 keys at 210 ilvl with no problem.
Players make their own requirements. So I don’t get why you’d think
when those same casuals can set requirements for their own groups.
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This is the problem with the game today. Everyone is just a number on a website and there is no social interaction anymore. And people wonder why WoW peaked in Wrath when they added LFG and Gearscore. This game has become absolutely toxic
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So what? It’s their key to do what they want with it. If they want 3k io members to smash the key than that’s there prerogative.
You are entitled to no one’s group but your own. I’ve pugged ksm 3 going on 4 times it’s really not that bad just use your own key and have patience.
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Exactly, if they want to sit there for three hours waiting for someone to carry them, you probably didn’t want to group with them anyway.
There’s still good guilds and communities. Pugs have never been anything but a means to an end.
i mean i never see that kind of requirement but i don’t doubt it happens. the further we go into this patch the harder it is to get into content with low level gear. people expect you to be at around 220+ at this point in the patch lol.
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I’m sure it happens sometimes. People put crazy requirements on all kinds of keys. I saw a 17 the other day that was listed as 1900 io only. It doesn’t happen very often though. I wouldn’t worry about it.
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Those are the people that need to trivialize the content to complete it. You’re better off staying out of those groups anyway.
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Haven’t seen that for a 12-14.
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That’s more of a problem on alliance than horde. Come join an m+ community to solve that. I’m on vacation now but I’ll be back to keys on Friday with the alliance outreach, which has people looking to run keys without the toxicity. We’re working on getting members ksc now and soon ksm.
Come join us be searching alliance outreach on the community finder or following at twitch.tv/miggidy_mack. We’d love to run keys witcha!
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People were looking you up in the Armory long before Gearscore came around. The addons have just made it more efficient.