These supply quests need to die. Horribly.
Every single game I’m in 50% of my team is AFKing in the mines and ignoring the rest of AV.
Remove the badge rewards for this or drastically buff rewards for insignia turn-ins (medals/crystals/scraps) because this is just absurd at this point. I’ve been in enough AVs the past few days to get 4000 honorable kills and in EVERY SINGLE ONE I have this issue having to wait for these people to be forced to defend DB when their precious quartermaster is threatened.
Dear Elune. Classic AV is only ever coming back for the winter, can you actually let the PvP players who begged for this zone for years to actually PvP in it? Please?
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Seriously, the design of this event leads me to think that there are some serious sociopaths in the Bliz dev team.
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It’s infuriating. I just want to play Classic AV in the brief window I actually have for it.
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The quests actually help to buff the npcs on your side so they can actually end up two shotting lone players. Most people want the mount which is why they’re in the mines despite it being faster to loot bodies. If Blizzard wants more people to participate in the pvp aspect they should make every 5 or so kills give a badge or two automatically and progress towards the mount.
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I know how AV works.
Having 20 people fighting over half a dozen supply spawn points in the mines is not helping your team. Having two or three people farming supplies for commandos is perfectly fine. HALF OF YOUR TEAM refusing to take part in the BG because they want to farm 10 supplies for 1% credit on the ram? Not acceptable.
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Tbf if both teams are afking in the mines it evens itself out. =p
Just means less people fighting over armor scraps like any smart person would do.
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The badge rewards being removed would be kind of a bad idea considering the event reward mount requires collection of badges in the battle.
That being said, they need to add badges to the crystal/blood and medal turn-ins. There’s no reason that contributing to summoning Ivus/Lokh shouldn’t contribute to earning the event reward, because that’s the kind of thing people actually did when this version of AV existed.
Honsetly they didn’t think this reward through very well at all, in my opinion. It does nothing to incentivize participating in the battle the way it was originally (besides the one-time kill of Korrak, perhaps).
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PVP should be rewarded in a PVP zone.
I want badges removed from this quest and added to insignia collection turn-ins.
There’s no excuse for half your team to be completely useless in a teamfight BG.
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What’s your suggestion for the event mount then? You can’t simply leave it unobtainable. Don’t take a sledgehammer to a problem without fully accounting for the consequences.
On a side note…it’s funny seeing the bots attacking korrak even after the opposite faction tagged him - even after he is still grey and we have an opportunity to let him reset haha
Haven’t gotten mad irl in wow for a while - but seeing that legit Upsets me haha
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You even quoted my solution. Crystals. Medals. Scraps. This is how you should be getting your mount… from actual PvP content.
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50badges a win 25 or less a loss. Maybe amount of overall contribution affect the end game total you get? Not removing it but offer incentives for other aspects of the play as well.
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Yeah, my mistake. I also included this solution in my own post which is probably why I reacted to your response the way I did. /shrug
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+1 for the OP
The Pvp event should encourage pvp, not mine turn ins. Next time have the event require hks or something instead of timewarped badges.
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I’d almost say remove the reward from the ram collection as well. A bit hazier since that turn-in actually does something to benefit the battle and it’s usually locked up rather quickly.
Rams are fine. They cap at 25. Mines have no limit and people endlessly waste their team’s time farming useless supplies (since you can’t actually LAUNCH an assault if you don’t have anyone pushing south…)
They don’t need to drastically buff the insignia turn-ins because they already clearly outweigh the supply runs. I was perfectly happy to do the supply runs until I realized how bad they were for the time I was spending.
The supply runs are punishing the people doing them just as badly as everyone else. Just explain that to people in the chat like I do. Sure, not everyone will believe you, there will always be that group, but it doesn’t compare to looting corpses and that’s the god’s honest truth.
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For what it’s worth, I feel like a jerk for doing it. But I want my ram! I do try and put in a fair effort, but it really is an awful idea. It should be any action in the BG that contributes to the bar.
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The problem with that is that certain people will queue for the bg, cap out the rams, eat the debuff, and then rinse and repeat.
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A lot of these people are told about how armor scraps are the way to go, ignore the people telling them, and usually throw in some expletive and complain that they’re “just here for the mount.”
Believe me, I’ve tried being nice about it. Now I’m just pissed off.
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