Come on folks its the first week so many people in group finder posting “know the fights”. How the heck am I gonna know the fights if nobody invites me lol. I watched videos on YouTube what else you want me to do!
Now I know some gonna say oh you should gear up or join a Guild etc… but I’m just asking to join a normal raid.
Please take a leap of faith and invite some of us casuals into your raid group lol … I mean you can always kick me if I suck really bad.
I feel for you because panda, but the pug scene can be rough. It’s probably your ilvl more than anything else. Even for normal, it’s still a feeding frenzy with listings and there’re probably better-geared healers applying alongside you.
So just say you know the fights.
How dare you expect a real human to carry you. You think you’re entitled to other people’s time, you parasitic scum? If you’re not born knowing every fight, you’re just going to have to scramble around in the mud with the rest of the masses where you belong until you can claw your way up.
Did I do it right?
do lfr nothing change that much from lfr-normal
Raid pugs are insanely fickle and take a crapton of time to get going and very often fall apart on the first wipe. Also very often the people staying are the left of bell curves because they got lucky to even get an invite in the first place so they’re crossing everything they can hoping to stay under the radar when das boot comes around and that they can get kills to get some non queue content vaults which is their “BIS”.
You did this perfectly.
Bravo!!!
Bravo!!!
I did two raids. One was “know the fight” kinda guy that was kicking everyone after one death and figuring it out. We got to the 3rd boss before he raged quit on us because we wiped…once.
Again, we are still in the first week with gear still getting replaced. This is normal btw.
2nd time, we cleared it all the way up to mug’zee with almost zero problems and chilling and having a good time. He destroyed us and we decided it was time to throw in the towel.
But man, once you stop kicking everyone and getting new players in, then you get more mistakes because you have to explain everything over again.
I have a different experience. The ones who stay and don’t quit learn and finish more often than not.
Even in Liberation LFR I’ve seen people getting chewed out for not knowing what to do. It’s like c’mon guys, it’s just LFR. It’s really not that serious. The bar for success is low, and it’s fine for players to learn by doing instead of looking things up outside the game beforehand.
Personally, I think these things are taken waaaaay too seriously.
Even at that level, people forget that this is just a game. If I get into a group that takes things that seriously, I’ll take the buff and leave.
I’m not down for excessive toxicity.
That’s why I’m happy my nephew does this level stuff and if I want to join a raid with him, he’ll help me.
You can’t read the adventure guide and watch some quick videos?
I wouldn’t chew anyone out, but how hard is it to read the adventure guide to at least have a basic clue?
People just learn differently. The adventure guide to me is always useless. I learn by doing. Reading what an ability does isn’t the same of actually doing the dance.
last thuesday i did lfr raid and whip once on the music boss due to players not watching the pilons and placing them to far apart
But it at least gives you a clue. I don’t expect LFR players to go in with full knowledge from watching YouTube Shorts on these fights and full rundowns from raid guides. Just… have a small clue about what mechanics exist.
The flip side of the argument is what right do you have to waste the time of the other X number of people in the raid with your ignorance and/or incompetence?
Like sure LFR is ultra low stakes but delves reward objectively better gear and can be done solo so your left of bell curve antics are hurting nobody but yourself.
That’s always the crux when it comes to group content. Wasting time progging content with randos is very often a waste of time with no future return since those randos aren’t back next week providing hopefully a cleaner and smoother farm experience unlike static groups hence why expectations are beyond stupid inflated.
yeah, i definitely lean heavy into auditory and kinesthetic learning. the dungeon journal is good for getting the basics, and I feel pretty good in my ability to correlate decades of wow boss mechanics and tanking into the new dungeons, but it really makes a difference having seen it
I’ve been in three groups so far for the raid. All pugs by “know the fights” all they mean is watch a video. One group someone even mentioned something from a Ready, Check, Pull video. No one expects experience they just want to know you have some awareness of the mechanics so you know how to respond when you see it.
That is why I just watch it or do it but mostly, raid leaders really put it better in simple terms. Split raid into two, even left, odds right, dodge mechanics, soak the swirls and switch to the other boss when clash. Rinse repeat.
Boom. Easy and fast to understand
People who treat LFR and Normal (and to some degree, even Heroic) raiding like they’re all on a death-defying race to world rankings…irritate me greatly.
Raiding is a game. Raiding is meant to be fun. If you find yourself anxious, angry, or just generally irritable and mean whilst raiding, it will kill it for everyone else and you’re doing it wrong.
Last night, we went in on our first raid night to do our obligatory Normal run-through/gear check before heading into Heroic progression next week. We spent the whole night laughing and having a good time while learning the fights.
I have no comprehension of this stone-faced attitude so many people have with treating WoW like a job. The people for whom WoW is actually a job…that makes sense. They get sponsor money and they are doing this because it’s literally paying bills. That means they have a responsibility to bring their A-game at all times and “do the work.”
For those of us who raid on weekends with friends, omg. Get out of here with that mess. We’re gonna clear the raid. We’re gonna get the loot. We’re gonna have a good time while we’re doing it.