Way over tuned spec.
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Black arrow damage itself isn’t what’s making bm overpowered right now. The value of black arrow should stay where it’s at, but hunters prey could be capped in PvP at 2 or 3 targets. Most of the time when you see huge amounts of black arrow damage, it’s because the hunter was able to consistently cleave with it and each proc can hit up to five things.
For single target damage, pet melee is 35-40% of your overall profile when you combine all 8 pet sources. Imo, the damage you actually want to tone down for bm is the stuff that comes out of dire beast. Both the proc rate from kill command and the damage of the beasts themselves. This is not only cutting a significant amount of damage, but cutting it from the most toxic part of the damage profile. You want it to have to do damage with things that you can stop with cc and disarms instead of set and forget pet damage.
Marks is also the worst spec in the game and uses black arrow so you can’t just blanket nerf it.
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just give them 15% nerfs on the biggest dmging attacks
im still salty af
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Black Arrow isn’t the issue, BM is.
Don’t castrate DR for MM just because it’s broken on BM.
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They just need to nerf Black Arrow for BM Spec.
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You can adjust something based on spec and not effect how it impacts other specs
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They need too anyways, BM for some reason has 4x the Black Arrow procs of MM right now and hits for maybe like 200k less damage. Not sure why that is considering Kill Shot on BM without Black Arrow crits max for like 500k.
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See, this is something that they’re generally able to do but sometimes neglect to
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I wonder if pet melee is incorrectly counting towards their auto shot procs
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Yeah, that’s the exact type of bug that I’d expect. Or like barbed shot haste giving 5x proc value.
“Fixed a bug causing thing to proc more than intended” the same patch they nerf it by 35% and the spec disappears overnight because zero output.
Sort of like Unholy 
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Never sad when BM disappears, should be flushed like all other BMs I ever had.
Basically having a ranged warrior is never fun to deal with
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My black arrows does like 300k more than my regular kill shot using packleader
Yea Black Arrow is overtuned and needs to be hitting for like 300-400k less on Crits. Also sometimes I randomly get an 800k non-crit Black Arrow…not sure where that comes from.
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On a sidenote…just queued WW Monk into an Aff, Frost Mage, Shadow Priest lobby…I genuinely wanted to shut my PC down. Was surprised I came out of it with 2 wins still.
Also might have found a bug, but it probably won’t be replicated anytime soon. I Whirling Dragon punched the Warlock as soon as he used his port and he flew out of the Arena and died.
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This is why BM gets more black arrows per game. And the fact that you’re proccing it off of kill command instead of aimed/rapidfire.
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No rocket science needed → a flat nerf by 20% across the board would be a good start and we could see where we get.
I dont know if anyone else remembers S1 MoP where stampede was OP.
It took 2 weeks for them to realize that pet damage was not being affected by Vers.
I wouldnt be surprised if this was the case again.
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Give them the DK treatment and nerf their 3 top damaging abilities by 15%. Simple solution.
Sure! Just nerf black arrow, kill command, barbed shot, and stomp by 15%! They’ll DEFINITELY be okay after that 
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No, BM is getting more PROCS…not just more total Black Arrows. It procs way more often for BM Hunter than it does for MM. This needs to be looked into.
Yes, this needs to have a lower proc chance since Kill Commands have insane uptime compared to Rapid Fire/Aimed shot.
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