Killing Spree is Killing Mee

As the title suggests, Killing spree for Outlaw rogue is killing me. Both Literally int eh game and a little bit mentally too. After seeing the intended changes for 11.1 i was hoping a dev could see this and post their thoughts and goals for this particular ability.

First off, i love hitting this button. Its satisfying to have a big bursty spender that breaks up the two finishers we have. But holy hot damn is it dangerous. I really appreciate that during your spree your damage gets turned into a dot, that was a great recent change that solved a big danger of it… but it felt like a solution that addressed a symptom of what i think the bigger problem with KS is; the (albeit brief) loss of control of your character. Even with conscious planning the use of it, to make sure you’re not casting it in something that’ll kill you in the next couple of seconds, with the amount of stuff on the floor in dungeons recently, chances are that something will spawn there for you to come out of KS and land in. But honestly, this isnt the biggest gripe i have with it.

The most frustrating part is the amount of effects on the floor that will make you lose control of your character, and stop KS instantly, dropping the damage mitigation and killing you. Eg: Tentacles on last boss of Grim Batol. So not only do you miss out on the full use of the spender but it stops the important flow of outlaw and or will get you dead.

Another fairly common, but just as incredibly frustrating part of the ability actually moving your character is that it can really bug out your character and kill you in other silly ways. If i use it in Dawnbreaker on a moving ship, i will regularly fall through the boat to my death. Or in Necrotic wake if i get targeted by Dark exile (last boss) mid spree, i have been propelled directly down through the floors to my death.

SO while i like the flavor of bouncing around, i think there are ways to keep it without actually losing control;
1 - Make it similar to blade dance with demon hunter. there you still have a flare of movement, but it appears to be just a visual and you dont actually change position or run the risk of hitting things you have no control over.
2 - Honestly i feel you dont have to move us at all. Theres a world where you can have a dope animation (i like the idea of something like Secret tech where you see a clone bounce around instead of you) without actually moving us.
3 - outside of reworking the actual skill, a better ‘remedy’ for me would be to not only have the damage reduction last a second or two after KS, but to make us immune to loss of control effects too. However this still wont save me from being catapulted through the planet.

At teh end of the day killing spree is a talent, and therefore optional. So all this can be avoided if i just dont pick it. But to me, thats not the fun way to go… and if you play the Trickster Hero Talents, which i really like, you actually do have to take it for full use of the talent tree.

Either way id be happy to hear from any Dev how they feel about it; or from any other outlaws that could change how i feel about it too.

playing a rogue or a warrior right now is a humiliation ritual as you watch other specs do more with far less effort

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Yeah i do warrior too… Honestly tho this isnt even about the damage, its about the gameplay. Technically its a frustration with an ‘off meta’ ability on an off meta class using the off meta hero talent. But i just want to be able to do it if its there for me to do. Because it really is a lot of fun. Until it isnt.

I remember not being able to use Killing Spree on certain raid and dungeon bosses because it would teleport you behind them and off a cliff. I think Kologarn in Ulduar was an example.

Yeah i had that happen a couple of times at the end boss of Dawnbreaker early on. But i believed they fixed it because its been a while. Good to see they knew of that one at least.

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Wasn’t there a glyph that stopped you teleporting around (and thus making Killing Spree a suicide button)?

Im actually not sure about that. only ones i can remember were reducing its cd, and one that puts you back to where you started from. both i think were made baseline.

Killing Spree feels like a poor man’s Bladestorm imo.

Dunno about the killing yourself part but the Combo Point requirement turned me off from it.

it should probably work like blade dance.

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Man, i haven’t really used that ability since WOTLK, i had a macro with a bunch of CD,s plus killing spree and some other stuff, i could pull up behind someone mid air, pop the macro and they’d be dead before they realized what was happening :joy:

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