PvP is dead. I’ve played 8 matches of WSG this morning and 5 of them were against premades. Either give us balanced pvp in the form of arenas or force premades into their own queue.
In ANY other online game smurfing results in a permanent ban. Premades are no different than smurfing.
Well there is technically a difference in that Blizzard is incentivizing the “smurfing” where as other games they try to stop it.
The term ‘smurf’ is used in gaming to describe a player in an online game that creates a new account to play against lower-ranked players , however, it can be used as an all-around term for describing a player who uses an alternate account
even if this was smurfing, that’s total nonsense, there’s no ranked versions of bgs so where would higher skilled players play if they aren’t allowed in bgs because they get “perm banned” for smurfing 
Premades should have their own queue.
Arenas - HELL NO!!! That eSports focused BS is the real reason retail sucks.
Nobody cares about arena.
NO!
Arena is 
too, it solves nothing.
In fact if they implement arena, rating and gear locked behind rating I will unsub.
It is equivalent to smurfing. Let’s use DOTA as an example…
If you take 2 teams with equal skill, and one team gets to coordinate picks, but the other team has to random 5 heroes, the team with coordinated picks wins 80% of matches. Premades provide an unfair advantage (just like smurfing) and need to be forced into their own queue.
The idea that premade players are higher skill level is moronic. They just have a better team comp.
So you believe there are zero skilled players playing in premades? Even without an ideal comp?
I’m not saying premade players are trash, I’m just saying they aren’t necessarily better
There are definitely trash premades playing a busted comp.
They still will lose to better players with a “worse comp”
It’s possible, but 1 healer vs 3 healers is pretty much gg every time
here its exactly like smurfing
example is not smurfing either
oh dear, its pretty obvious that premades have an advantage, calling it smurfing is just nonsense
I’m queing as a 3 man. Warrior priest Druid.
I have beaten many full premades with 3 priests 3 hunters 2 rets etc
3 priests doesn’t mean fkall if you don’t know what you’re doing.
The mid fight isn’t even important
I understand that. Unfortunately most randoms don’t and they will spend all game fighting mid vs a bunch of warriors/rets that have pocket heals.
I’d really like to be able to play competitively with a team that understands objectives without having to join a premade
Wargames are the only real competitive games you’re gonna get unfortunately. And that is 10v10
Very rarely do I find pug games that are very “competitive”