After gearing my shaman and monk for pvp I decided to go with my 3rd most played class which was BM hunter.
I know people say to go haste but what can I say, I prefer to crit/mastery (running with 27% crit, 36% mastery and 26% vers when in pvp) with bm hunter and I can finally say that kill command feels great to press unlike all of last expansion. In full honor gear during my burst which is barbed-barbed-bloodshed-death chakram-bestial wrath + trinket, my kill commands are critting people for 56k from each pet! Unfortunately, outside of all that each is only critting for 22k, but still I just care about that big burst!
I’m so glad they finally made kill command hit for real damage once again!
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No way ur critting a geared player for 56k. Ur either referring to pve mobs, or undergeared bg players. I have 41%mastery and i crit for 36k at most both pets combined
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Mastery is a completely dead stat for BM and SV.
For BM you get more damage on your pet from just Vers, and it also buffs your damage.
I’ve prioritized crit on my gear. I almost always play with the battlemasters trinket (the health boost), so I don’t have the damage increase from the badge or the RNG proc one.
With all modifiers in play I usually see each Kill Command crit for 35k, so a total of 70k.
I think i had a Wailing Arrow hit 80-90k once?
You do realize I’m talking about when EVERYTHING is going, it’s not constant.
For example, when i look at the tooltip in bgs my base kill command does 33,257 when I use my trinket
Bestial wrath adds 35% more dmg
Bloodshed makes your pets (including kill command) do 15% more physical dmg - it’s not shown in the tooltip btw.
Death Chakram makes the target take 10% additional dmg - once again not updated in the tooltip.
When talented into piercing fangs, during bestial wrath your pets crit for 35% more dmg meaning your crits do 205% dmg in pvp.
This means 33,257 x 1.15 x 1.1 x 1.35 x 2.05 = 116,429/2 = 58,214
You figure most people have around 25% vers so 12.5% dmg reduction. So 58,214 x 0.8725 = 50,725
Anyway, here’s some proof that I’m reaching those crits. These are screen shots from rated solo shuffle which as we know, everyone is geared.
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Also, fat crit.
oh wow, i didn’t know that - thank you, that’ll make things easier.
And thanks 
Most people have modifyers shields armor reduction…versatility…passive defensives…
True, but as you can see in the pics I linked which were taken in between rounds in the ranked solo shuffle, I’m not lying.
Wht rating was the solo shuffles some people arent full geared yet even in shuffles i checked after my games and my kill commands were at 32-36k each pet. 20% crit. 38% mastery with modifyers up on average
You can’t get into ranked solo shuffle unless you have at least 408 ilvl.
what a misleading thread. a perfect place for the hunter devs to slap their hands together and say “yip, we did it, hunter is good now”
bm is dead as dead can be in pve.