Friendly reminder that it’s been this way for 20 years.
And it’ll be this way for 20 more years.
CC is an integral part of PVP. There are many other CCs in the game as well.
3 Likes
There are longer CCs, with fewer requirements and DR interactions than KS.
What makes it special for you to make this post?
2 Likes
Yep. Not all pvp is about killing out right.
I on rogue don’t have to kill all targets. If I can hold healers down they aren’t healing the big fight.
Why in tol Barack my rogue can do cc far from the flag. I’ll cc the crap out of a healer on the road. That means they aren’t healing say wv.
Since in say wv most of my cc my team mates would actually break. Blind breaks on hits. Aoe and cleave happens on flags, a lot.
TIL the game lasts 20 seconds.
Do…
Do you not know that Kidney Shot’s cooldown is 20 seconds?
Kidneyshot is 6 seconds duration, 30% of 20 seconds is 6 seconds, isajoke.
I was implying the thread is very silly.
1 Like
Do…
Do you know kidney shot requires combo points and energy as well?
3 Likes
So what are you wanting? class balance changes on a classic rereleased game? I could understand wanting something like dampening in arena or some sort of QoL changes but you complaining about class damage on here is kinda pointless.
Wait until he learns about Maim.
1 Like
Gasp, shock and horror!
1 Like
is the best stun lock in the game by a large margin and arguably the best button
short cd, long duration, physical
2 Likes
Don’t tell OP about DB. That might just blow their mind.
1 Like
There are way to many CCs in the game and everything should DR.
Actually it removes the skill. No CC should be longer than 3 secs and there should be way less CC so you actually have to PvP and have skillful counterplay. It’s one of the things that WoW has done wrong since the beginning for PvP.
CC doesn’t = PvP. CC shouldn’t be spammable or abundant. This is why WoW will never be considered a good or competitive PvP game compared to others.
1 Like
Bruh you’re such a meme lol. Managing CC isn’t skill? You’d rather butt heads like two rams full zug than trying to make skillful CC/cross-CC chains/avoiding CC chains.
No wonder you hate arenas.
4 Likes
Most PvP players don’t like Arena.
Most serious PvP players don’t play WoW and play other games because they have actual competitive skillful PvP.
In WoW? No
The spammable CC and abundance of it removes a lot of skill. This has been covered.
WoW is the only game where people for some strange reason equate CC as PvP. It’s not.
1 Like
Isn’t the DR longer than 20 seconds? You can’t be stunned 6 seconds out of every 20 by Kidney Shot?
DR is 24 secs if I’m not mistaken.
The DR for this ability used to be spotty. There was window of 18-24 secs where DR could be up but never knew for sure. I’ve always just waited the 24 secs.
This got fixed at some point in retail and I haven’t bothered to see if it behaves this way in Cata classic.
Shhh you don’t speak for PvP players even if you pretend you’re an emissary for them. You pull exaggerated numbers outta your rear every PvP related thread and everything you say is so off base you’re a meme when you post in PvP threads.
Honestly can’t tell if you’re just a S-tier troll.
3 Likes
The PvP players have spoken though. Arena participation is dead because PvPers aren’t interested. Serious PvP players also play actual competitive PvP games. These are just facts. The numbers speak for themselves.
Arena failed as an Esport, it’s not interesting to even WoW players that’s why only 5k people watch it. If you love it cool but again trying to gaslight everyone into thinking Arena is a hit success or popular is just being delusional.
Arena is the Vegans of PvP.
Trolls add no value to discussions, never use facts. I have never trolled and never will. You can disagree with what I say but it’s difficult when I always get to the discussion and present valuable information and facts.
The issue is many WoW players have tunnel vision and can’t see outside their own personal experiences in WoW. When they need to take a birds eye view and also look at other games and game design as a whole to have a better idea of what is right and wrong. WoW has done a lot of things wrong when it comes to PvP design and that is why it never worked.