I’m sitting in the 1900s and keep getting kicked in the first miliseconds of my casts…they are not even trying to hide it. When is the next ban wave for this crap?
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Honestly sh!t I called this! I was in a bg the other day with a clearly made kick botting premade. It was fu%king awful. If this doesn’t change soon I might have to join the bot life of insta kicks. This is getting to a point where we can’t stay relevant.
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Probably less to do with kick-botting and more to do with GSA becoming more popular again and people kicking the moment they hear even a syllable of a spell that sounds scary.
Also at 1900 you’re still mostly with people who are getting carried by class/gear and don’t realize that kicking late is a bigger loss for the enemy (unless they’re worried about getting hard-CC’d or going against a fire mage who can shimmer at any moment in the gpy).
Alternatively, they have terrible reflexes and are trying to kick the end of your juke but are clipping the start of your next spell instead.
(Or they are the terrible draenei shaman that always shows up in my Mechagon shard that has Wind Shear macro’d to everything)
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Possible, but the most likely answer is that they are just cheating. It is a lot more common than people want to admit, partially because cheaters get on forums and cast doubt on talk of cheating, to help keep themselves from getting caught. What’s funny is when this is proven periodically as games innovate anti-cheat and suddenly 30% of a playerbase disappears overnight due to permaban from cheating.
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Good players will only kick what needs to be kicked and not fall for the fake casts.
I dunno, personally I have only gone against a handful of people in the history of this game that ever even remotely seemed like kick-botting cheaters to me. Anecdotal and all, but after thousands of games there’s only been a few that actually seemed suspicious enough to report and have Blizzard take a look.
Seen plenty of other kinds of exploits and obvious cheaters for sure, but I’m just not convinced that kickbotters are as much of a problem as people say they are. Most of the “omg instantly interrupted!!” moments were from people that are obviously bad at kicks and just happened to land one at the same moment I tried to cast a spell after failing 10 in a row.
I have more of a problem dealing with the 285270345 pseudo-interrupts everyone has these days after failing to land their kicks than anything else.
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I’m not saying that all cheaters use kickbots. But I am saying that video games are actually riddled with cheaters, much more so than the communities will ever admit. They think the cheaters are just good, and they aspire to be that good some day, and admitting that that person is cheating instead of winning by skill takes that dream away for them.
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Anyway, I’m not denying that video games are full of cheaters. They definitely are, but I’m not nearly convinced that kickbotters are much of a problem in this game that people think they are.
Exploits are a bigger problem in this game than botters (gatherbots and mundane combat routines aside), and those are generally pretty obvious. I just never see signs of a well programmed kickbot unless they’re programmed to potentially fail at crucial moments to make them seem more human, but at that point, why risk your account?
One of the most common bots I’ve seen in the wild in FPS games was the triggerbot. I once saw a dude who had been using one so long that he was actually really good with it. He knew just how to wave his mouse over people’s heads to fish for headshots, and it looked pretty natural, except that it would out itself in certain situations, like when there was graphic cover between him and someone else that you couldn’t see through and he would still get a perfect headshot. I looked into it and yeah, programming it with things like slightly random delays or to occasionally misfire is totally a thing (probably less common in wow where I can’t spec you and record your screen).
I don’t think it’s a plague either, but then I don’t play Arena because I think team deathmatch is stupid and boring, so I would be much less likely to encounter it.
FPS games are definitely full of cheaters. They’re also much easier to program something like that for - especially if it provides any kind of feedback if your crosshair is over a hitbox but behind a graphical barrier with no collision.
To make matters worse, a bot like that in an FPS game is way more gamebreaking than a kickbot in WoW. Getting that sick headshot is the gameplay whereas landing a kick is one of many elements to a successful fight in WoW, and even still there’s a big list of criteria to make that kick actually meaningful.
tbh I think FPS games have the cheating problem the worst. Much easier to develop for, much easier to throw in human variance to reduce the chance of detection at less risk (missing a few shots when you have a clip of several is not nearly as devastating as missing a kick that could make or break a game), and typically a genre without much overall depth to make up for someone cheating.
Yep, definitely true. Cheats in general are not as helpful in a game like WoW, especially when you’re not in the top tier and gear starts to be decisive before skill or spec (at the top all those guys have equivalent gear, if they didn’t they wouldn’t be there). Still, something like a kick bot can be helpful. I can see some other automatic things being helpful, but also at a top level having things automated means you can’t make the choice of “do I want to kick this spell or eat it,” which can also be the right choice. Just last night I let a guy who was juking a little too hard grow confident that I either didn’t know how to kick or wasn’t going to, and when he finally tried to freecast I let him have two spells and then shut him down and melted him. There is some psychological game in FPS too but WoW is a lot of that (and a lot of reflex time stuff). You can’t really program a bot to think for you at this point.
Still, knowing how the kids who play these games are, I have no doubt that some of them see “kick bot” and think it’s going to carry them to to the top and go download it. And those kids should be banned.
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Just cast a heal randomly to waste it.
everytime i’ve ever been called a kick bot, this is what actually happened.
Mad props to you bro for being dumb enough to admit you’re willing to break TOS over bgs.
i wonder if people are really kickbotting or if OP just doesn’t understand how fast players can be.
people have been cheatingfor literally thousands of years.
man i used to play a game called unreal tournament 2004 and i cant even tell u how many people got busted for having aimbots/ radars/ trigger bots etc… it was honestly hilarious
wow is no exception.
sad but true. q metallica