Kalec the aspect?

Back when Kalecgos was briefly made into the aspect of magic, was this in name only, or did they some how get him the powers of a dragon aspect?

He got the powers of the Aspect of Magic as shown by Twilight of the Aspects.

He is outright shown getting bigger!

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Ok, but then where did that power even come from? The Titans didnt give him the powers of an aspect.

Although the flight wasnt sure they could ā€˜make’ another aspect they were to choose a new leader during the embrace. But when the time came something (titans maybe?) Suddenly took the choice upon themselves and empowered Kalec on thier own while Aragos bleated on about how he was the best choice.

The Embrace visually shows the Moons(or at least one of them since one was overlapping the other) sending off Arcane Symbols as the vote happens.

The Moons chose the Aspect from whom the Blue Dragonflight deemed worthy.

In otherwords some entity who can influence the Night Sky including the appearance of the Moons chose the Aspects.

Whom that Moon associated Entity could be is unknown as there are many beings who mess with the sky visually with Moons in particular including Elune and Bwomsamdi and let’s not forget that N’Zoth’s Eye(it’s the exact same eye) has been seen used by the Darkmoon Faire on Darkmoon Island.

Of course the very notion of N’Zoth somehow gifting tons of Arcane Magic to Kalecgos rather than Deathwing’s choice Arygos is hilarious!

Where are all the aspects currently by the way?

The only (former) Aspects still around are Alextrasza, Kalecgos and Nozdormu. And Nozdormu dies in the future for sure since we kill him.

Kalecgos and Alexstrasza are in the Heart Chamber. Ysera is a constellation and Nozdormu’s location is unknown to us Players.

Mostly in name only. at least that was the case now. He did receive some sort of investiture as you can see that being taken away from him after Deathwing’s fall, the same way all the other Aspects lost their titan investitures.

It should be pretty obvious. What Moon Entity is mostly associated to the arcane? And this moon entity is also one of those two moons.

She even has a pillar of creation named after her.

I mean, maybe.

Timeways being what they are, we’ve not been explicitly told that the Murozond we killed was ā€œourā€ Murozond derived from ā€œourā€ Nozdormu.

And since technically everything he was doing to create the End Time amounted to creating a false timeline, that Murozond we defeated could arguably have himself qualified as a product of that same false timeline, and therefore not been the specific Murozond our timeline’s particular ā€œtrueā€ Nozdormu is destined to become.

Murozond was existing outside of time. Meaning that all versions of Nozdormu will become Murozond. Nozdormu even acknolwges this after you defeat his future self

Murozond chose to live in the ā€œEnd Timeā€ because it was the best outcome Azeroth will have.

"Now living outside of time, Murozond was once the great Dragon Aspect Nozdormu the Timeless One. After the titans showed him his own death, the tormented Nozdormu was tricked by the Old Gods into trying to subvert his mortality. As a result, Nozdormu shattered the timeways and created the infinite dragonflight… jeopardizing the very future of Azeroth.

Nozdormu says: At last it has come to pass. The moment of my demise. The loop is closed. My future self will cause no more harm.

Nozdormu says: Still, in time, I will… fall to madness. And you, heroes… will vanquish me. The cycle will repeat. So it goes.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Murozond

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And frankly none of that makes any sense, because Nozdormu spent much of his time during Cataclysm trying to find out what was behind the disruption being caused by the Infinite Dragonflight.

If he’d already seen his own death, he’d have already know what was behind it because he’d have seen himself as Murozond, the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight.

And no, Murozond doesn’t perpetually exist outside time. He can travel outside time, but when he’s doing something to affect a particular point in time, it only makes sense that he’d exist within that point of time while doing it. If he always existed outside time, then Nozdormu’s entire talk about ā€œclosing the loopā€ would be irrelevant because killing Murozond at only one point in time - the End Time - wouldn’t have killed him at all, as a being outside time wouldn’t then exist within the point in time in which he died. Moreover killing him would have been impossible because we, the players, do exist within the bounds of time.

Even his origin story doesn’t sync with the true timeline and reads like an alternate version of events. Nozdormu did everything he could to ensure Murozond’s - his - eventual defeat and demise. Yet according to Murozond’s backstory, Nozdormu has been tricked into trying to avert that exact thing ever since the titans showed him his own death. Yet if Murozond’s death as we saw it was said death, then he would know it’s a desirable outcome, as Nozdormu himself reacts with calm acceptance to the whole event.

Just conceptually, as soon as an entity not bound by time instigates events not adherent to the true timeline, he’s creating false timelines. That includes disrupting things to avert a particular event, like his own death. By definition, the very act of seeking to prevent the death he’s destined for amounts to derailing the proper course of events.

See, that’s the inherent paradox that unravels the whole idea. Nozdormu’s death is a destined event, meaning it’s fundamental to the one and only true timeline, as only the true timeline is fated to actually happen. Meaning it’s definitively impossible for his fated death to truly happen during the events of the End Time - a false end to a false potential timeline - because anything that happens in that timeline is destined to not happen.

Nozdormu’s been deceived before. Just because he’s convinced what we witnessed at the End Time was the death he expected to eventually suffer doesn’t necessarily mean he’s right. In a lot of ways, according to the very laws of time as established in WoW, he arguably has to be wrong in this case.

Murozond was ā€œliving outside of timeā€ because he was no longer preserving the timeways on Azeroth; however, he died at a particular place and point in time, within a particular timeline, and that temporal locale was by definition in the midst of a false timeline where the events that happened are not destined to occur, as proven by that destiny being averted within our timeline, the only true one.

In short, amidst the infinite number of false timelines, there exists one in which the End Time occurred, and then Nozdormu died. Being false, that timeline will not happen. It will cease to be as the true timeline leaves it behind. So by the very nature of the entire situation, everything that happened in the End Time - including Murozond’s appearance there, his manipulation to anchor the timeways to it, and then his death - never truly happened, because the End Time itself never happened.

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Twilight of the Aspects mentions that the Titans showed him his death and that he was shown in the form of the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight.

The book furthermore mentions trying to find out how he of all people would become the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight and got lost in the Timeways discovering the Old Gods’ involvement in both the Nightmare and the Twilight’s Hammer until Thrall unknowingly reminded him to live in the moment.

Needless to say Nozdormu never found out how he became Murozond though apparently knows it will happen.

Blizzard loves killing the aspects norzdormu is doing the smart thing and not appering

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I assume the titans built in some kind of failsafe in the event of an Aspect’s death. After all, if the aspects were mortal, then it would only take the death of 1 Aspect to permanently ruin the titans’ plans. Notice that the other dragons all had to vote to decide who the next Aspect would be. That’s probably how this failsafe decides which member of the dragonflight will be given the power of an aspect.

Not if his actions were always were through agents.

And previously (so to speak; this is time travel) those actions were.

But the most pertinent action - the action that led to his death - was done by Murozond himself. And it took place at the End Time, a specific point in time within a timeline. So while he may have been spending most of his ā€œtimeā€ (ahem) outside the timeways, for the event that led to his death he was very much deliberately present within one of them.

We’ve averted the Hour of Twilight and the End Time as they occurred in that specific future, meaning that particular timeline and everything within it wasn’t part of the true timeline and was thus definitively a false destiny.

Or it was a loop that is part of a path that leads to a still unknown future.

Except it can’t lead anywhere.

The specific reason Murozond was trying to force the End Time’s timeline was explicitly because it’s a ā€œdead endā€ that doesn’t go anywhere. He so feared some eventual occurrence in the future that he was trying to impose a false future that terminates in its place. His contention was that time itself ending - and all things ending with it - was preferable to allowing the flow of events to continue proceeding.