"just transfer" discussion

“Just transfer guys! Just transfer …your main, your guild, any friends on the server, all your alts and bank alts, any second accounts, your entire guild bank, … duh, its so easy, jUsT tRaNsFeR”

“And oh yeah, if that server you transfer to soon also begins to have long queue times (which has already happened)… thats also your fault, just transfer again duh!”

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You don’t need an established guild or community in a social game, who cares if you’ve made friends and a reputation on a social game just abandon it every couple months, duh.

Because it’s a player created problem, players flocked to mega servers despite Blizzard saying you will see server queues. Blizzard has provided free transfers off which people still refuse to take, now they have increased the gold cap u can transfer off, and still people likely won’t transfer.

This is 100% a player problem of players feeling they need to be on a mega server and all other servers are dead. Or that the only way to play WoW is on a mega server etc.

Players are the ones responsible and despite the massive queues still hang tight refusing to transfer while complaining on the forums. Heck Blizzard just increased the gold cap transfer per character to 25k at lv 51+ and people will still refuse to transfer.

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Perhaps you should consider transferring?

“I don’t want to transfer so you transfer instead.”

There, explained it for you.

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Because it’s the only option Blizzard is giving

I addressed literally what you just said in my post because the same arguments keep cropping up. I know it’s a long post but please read before responding. I even asked that in my post.

It’s not a player made problem when Blizzards alternatives are poorly communicated, made at the discretion of blizzard and provide no alternatives.

A person, let alone a group of people, cannot count on a maybe transfer eventually off of a dead server after weeks or months of ghosting from blizzard.

The alternative is to fork over 25$/ character, and convincing your whole guild, group of friends, etc to commit that much money to the same server if they haven’t quit.

The free transfers aren’t the problem, it’s the unknowing, lack of communication and lack of alternative / way to back up plan in the event blizzard goes silent.

Please do not respond again if you do not intend to read thoroughly and respond to what I am saying or you are just screaming into a void senselessly.

Ironic
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This is NOT 100% a player problem. Blizzard has been ‘managing’ this game for over 15 years, they had the ability to identify transfer trends and server populations. An hour que during prime time would’ve been fine but they let it get to a state where there can be over 10k+ people waiting in line to play on a single server. They had the ability to LOCK servers much earlier than they did. Instead, they waited until half the house was completely burned down before calling the fire company. Damage is done and we all get to suffer now due to their negligence.

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You literally didn’t read the thread. I have made the transfer. I’ve done this before. I literally asked one thing, to read the thread or don’t respond.

Not sure if I’m unclear, but read and respond. Your response has no substance and addresses literally nothing. If you feel correct in your opinion you should be able to express why and tear down any argument I have.

So I ask again, read and respond.

Because its what you should have done after the prepatch fiasco had queues just as bad as they are right now.

Because its what enough people did off of Faer/Bene that they filled up Sulfuras and Skyfury to being locked while Faer/Bene STILL have 5 digit queues.

Because its literally free.

Megaservers are the problem. They will never be the solution. Blizzard themselves had stated in no uncertain terms that megaservers are untenable. Their queues cannot be fixed by just “adding more space” because there is no more space to add. Saying “add more anyway” is like trying to shove a couch into your bathroom trashcan. No matter how much you insist, the trashcan cant add more space to fit the couch.

For another analogy, you can only bore out and soup up a V6 so much trying to get it over 500 horse before you wind up trashing the entire engine and have to just accept it was a stupid idea in the first place.

Rather than take the free, permanent solution you idiots choose to sit and demand the problem magically vanish instantly without any of you lifting a finger.

Youre being stupid. Stupid deserves to hurt.

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Rightfully so because it’s a player issue. Players chose to transfer to mega servers knowing full well there will be queues and many warning for Blizzard.

This is one of the few times Blizzard isn’t at fault.

Player psychology for most players is that they think they MUST be on a mega server and that all other non-mega servers are dead and the only way to play is to be on a mega server.

That mentality makes people refuse free transfers and transfers in general.

Yes I read your opening post and strongly disagree.

But it really is a player problem and not a Blizzard problem.

I’m on Pagle. People before the pre-patch left in droves to Bene saying the server was dead and the only way to play was on Mega Servers. Now many are still stuck there, to which I’m LMAO by the way, where they can’t retransfer back to Pagle.

It’s a player problem period. Surprising for once it isn’t a Blizzard issue.

The only viable solution Blizzard could feasibly apply would be Cross Realm which many classic players, myself included (and is a core principle of no Cross Realm in Classic), do not want.

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It’s both a blizzard and player made problem. Started by players and let run wild by blizzard. They should have done many things in the past, but we don’t have a time machine and we are reaping what we sowed. From what they say (doesn’t matter if you believe them or not, because it doesn’t change the reality of the situation) there isn’t anything they can do.

Its not a permanent solution. Its a temporary solution that leads to another future problem. That a lot of the people on these mega servers have already been through, to many times already.

“Player created problem”?

Players can’t see the exact data on the populations of realms. It’s on Blizzard to maintain order in this regard. If a realm has DOUBLE the capacity it can hold, how did it get that way?

Oh, that’s right. They were happy to collect all the transfer money and now that it’s an issue it’s a “player created problem.”

Get out of here lol.

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Ah yes, the tired old

if its not a single faction permalocked megaserver its a dead server OR IT WILL BE SOMEDAY

Ive been over this but for the sake of being thorough ill say it again. Stop pretending you have absolute knowledge of the future. You have exactly zero way of knowing with certainty what hand youre gonna scratch your :peach:with next. Let alone whether or not a server is going to die in a month, 6 months, a year or ever.

Youre hiding behind that strawman excuse to avoid having to admit you made the wrong decision before by making the right one now.

Be a man and accept you screwed up. Doubling down on a bad decision knowingly is worse than the bad decision by itself was.

It’s sad that people think 3k~ faction population is a dead server.

How many times would you need to piss on an electric fence, before you realize, its going to hurt evertime?

So, here’s the issue. You’re assuming that when someone like me tells you to just transfer that we haven’t already taken all of the nuance that is in your wall of text into consideration. We have, and we understand it. Yet, we still disagree.

We tell you to transfer because that is your only option… What else is there? There are no better servers that Blizzard could buy and all of the crap that people offer as a suggestion to fix queues have all been made before and are non-solutions that would cause more harm than good.

Queues have been around since the dawn of MMOs, and at the end of the day this is a player choice problem. It is fundamentally a frontal lobe issue. Top down executive issue. Why do I not have server queue issues? Why have I never had server queue issues? Am I just lucky? Or did have to do with my choices? My choice of servers? It’s like…free will, man.

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How many times do you have to be hit by a car before you learn to move out of the street?