You have to agree to the EULA in order to play. That agreement says you can’t use curse words. Most adults know how to control themselves. Typing in a conscious act, you can’t type something you have no control over it.
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There’s no point having this argument.
Even if there were, there’s no point having it here because no one here is empowered to change anything you’re complaining about.
So post your well though-out suggestion to General Discussion so that the developers can see it and give it every consideration it deserves.
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yes, they do
it is.
oh good, this means they should be able to control their emotional outbursts instead of abusing other players.
there’s legit a blue post on this from some time ago, where a GM flat out states the mature language filter is not a free pass to swear, and to knock it off.
luckily, you can complain about the notion all you want, but you can also deal with the consequences if you choose not to adhere to it.
changing the way you TYPE; something that takes considerably more thought when conveying information or conversating when compared to verbal communication; shouldnt be a huge issue.
unless of course, youre going to make it an issue…
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Blizzard isn’t being wrong about punishing for chat violations. You can’t use what a small number of employees have done to justify you breaking the rules. That is offensive and insensitive to the employees affected by that action.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
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I’m not the one being disciplined for using offensive language. I am commenting on the fact that if Blizz doesn’t want offensive language to be used, then don’t give people the ability to do so. If you’re going to censor speech, then go all in.
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I don’t know where you are pulling your data from, Sleazy, but we have players from a fairly wide age range. We also have a specific Teen Rating for this game, which governs what kind of content someone buying it is likely to find.
Additionally, “Adults” tend to know when the use of profanity is and is not appropriate. These are policies that have always been in place and enforced.
Again, you seem to be pulling information out of the air that is entirely made up. Profanity, directed or not, has always been against policy and when reported correctly, would be reviewed and penalized. Simply because you haven’t seen it, doesn’t mean it is new.
First, a filter isn’t a 100% guaranteed shield against profanity, it is a tool. Second, we give players agency over their communication. So may want to have unfiltered discussions among friends, within guilds or private channels.
It is amazing how things that have been in place since World of Warcraft launches are suddenly “catering to X type of people”. It isn’t new, we’re not catering to anyone other than our own policies that we set forth in 2004.
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please don’t equate what the develop team was doing in the office to the rules we should be following; this is still THEIR house, not ours.
by trying to put the two things on par, youre effectively stating that the GM’s and moderators that have to review emotional outbursts getting reported in the same group as developers that sexually harassed coworkers. the two are not even remotely the same group. stop generalizing.
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If I had the gumption, I could probably pull up a lot of examples to prove this statement wrong. But it seems there is a healthy dose of cynicism in your posts, and likely will not help change your mind one iota.
Any time a player uses profanity in the game, that is a huge hypocrisy. Specifically, to play the game, you have to agree to not use profanity in the game. It is in the End User License agreement. You and everyone else agrees in order to play, you will not use profanity.
Yet players still do.
Hence the option in the game. Precisely because of player hypocrisy.
Just remember it takes extra effort to use profanity in a game where you type out what you say. Verbal utterances can perhaps be excused to some extent, but where one types it out, there is a lot more control there. Hypocrisy indeed.
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The bottom line is pretty simple to understand. Blizzard offers us a product that allows us to exercise our dying brain cells. We can choose to adhere to the conditions set upon entry, or not. This is a choice. You can commence to curse and be obnoxious, knowing you are doing so against those conditions, which is also a choice. Should you choose to not adhere to the guidelines, it gives Blizzard a choice as to who is more important. One player who creates a problem for several players, or the players who reported him.
This world belongs to the guys who made the rules. If you don’t like the rules then why are you here?
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Again, like I said, you give people the ability to do something, but then punish them when they do it in a way you don’t see fit. You don’t see the hypocrisy there? So, if I “want to have unfiltered discussions among friends, within guilds or private channels”, but use a word that someone finds offensive because you give me the ability to “govern my conversations”, you’re saying that punishment is justified. Again, I pay attention enough to know not to use certain language when dealing with today’s online community, or society in general because apparently words hurt 
, but to punish someone for doing something that you clearly just stated you give them the right to do, is unjust and hypocritical.
Speaking of censorship, one of my comments got taken down. No cursing, no insults, not maliciously bad mouthing anyone. That’s why your systems that you guys have in place are unjust and unfair
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You have the “ability” to drive at 120 MPH in a vehicle. That doesn’t mean you are allowed to do so.
Correct. You agreed to follow the rules, so follow them.
That is not the only standard for an inappropriate comment/post.
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A car can go fast. But you get a ticket if you go over the speed limit. You don’t see the hypocrisy there? Your argument is lame.
Blizzard did not give players the right to use offensive language. In fact, they explicitly say you are not to use it. It’s not unjust. It’s not hypocritical. You take a chance when using that sort of language in a private conversation. It does limit who could have reported the language, but it really doesn’t excuse the use of that language.
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Funny. Your first comment in that quote is an insult.
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Blizzard relies on community input. The community, your fellow players, found your post wanting. Perhaps even on the edge of trolling.
Blizzard has systems that let the players (not Blizzard, players) have a voice in who gets spanked. Your fellow posters opted to use the tools available to them to express their discontent with what you are posting.
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Yea, because the player base has always been known for being honest and ethical when reporting complaints. What a joke.
Huh I have and have seen people curse all the time in the game, especially when you don’t get that drop you have been farming for years……and no one was banned or anything. So is it fine cause it wasn’t directed at anyone?
No, I don’t. You have the ability to do a lot of things in life where it is the adherence to the rules/laws which keep you from doing it, not some kind of block.
Guilds and Private channels are primarily “at will”, so we tend to be mostly hands off unless the reported offense is egregious.
A comment doesn’t need to contain profanity to not really be appropriate for these forums. Your references to “on Blizz’s side” really isn’t a subject for discussion here. So other players reported it and a moderator agreed.
I’m not sure why you feel it was a good idea to quote something that was moderated. I can tell you with some certainty that doing so absolutely is a violation of the Code of Conduct. I’d recommend not doing so going forward.
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No, it’s never “fine”. If it’s not reported, then Blizzard can’t action anyone. They don’t go looking for them; they rely on player reports.
These days, with online toxicity on everyone’s mind, plus the unintended confirmation that reporting actually works being given by dumb streamers, has led to an increase in reporting.
Curse at your own risk, but that’s what you are doing. Risking account actions. These account actions do not stop at being silenced. Suspensions happen, escalating each time, until you reach permanent account closure.
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There’s that cynicism again.
Players report. Blizzard decides. If players are reporting, there is likely something behind it all, a kernel of truth. That particular post was not very constructive. Non-constructive posts are by their very nature, trolling. Sure, it was not hard trolling, but the stench of it was there. And so the community decided to report, and Blizzard agreed.
When spanked, there are two ways to take it. Complain or learn. Your choice.
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It’s not “fine”. It was simply not reported. Blizzard’s systems aren’t monitoring every word looking for Social Contract violations. It requires your correspondents – the people who hear your speech – to decide it’s inappropriate and to report.
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