Just make the blood elves a neutral race

[Joyeuse-barthilas (Joyeuse)]

Go read the books, buddy.

I prefer not to taint my knowledge with dubiously canon sources.

Weird, their race officially left the alliance. Sure, there’s stragglers but It’s not the race as a whole.

That doesn’t change the fact that the High Elves who people identify as part of the Alliance exist and that’s who people want to play. Every unit in Warcraft III is a “straggler,” as you put it. This is totally irrelevant.

Uh, he literally slaughtered people before he even became a puppet.

Frostmourne was definitely in control of Arthas when he sacked Quel’thalas.

Sounds like a made up excuse to me…

You sound like a troll to me.

[Miriel-dathremar (Miriel)]

@Joyeuse-barthilas

They renamed themselves the Blood Elves long before they joined the Horde for out-of-lore marketing reasons.

@Miriel-dathremar

Blood Elves were designed for the Horde.

Chris Metzen, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2005, 1:55 … 'Blood Elves were chosen as the Horde expansion race in the Burning Crusade because designers were thrilled with how well Samwise had redesigned the classic wood elves with the night elves. And they knew that, “one day, high elves are going to have to get a facelift, too.

“ I don’t think anyone has abused high elves to this degree ,” Metzen said.

Blood Elves were designed for the Horde with a rewrite on the classic High Elf Trope just as Night Elves were designed for the Alliance with a rewrite on the classic Wood Elf trope.

https://www.lby3.com/2005/10/29/blizzcon-chris-sigaty-explores-the-lore-of-warcraft/

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

I prefer not to taint my knowledge with dubiously canon sources.

Lol they’re officially licensed and published by Blizzard bro. So you’re admitting to just ignoring fact, got it.

That doesn’t change the fact that the High Elves who people identify as part of the Alliance exist and that’s who people want to play. Every unit in Warcraft III is a “straggler,” as you put it. This is totally irrelevant.

Completely relevant. If the race as a whole leaves the faction, they’re no longer a part of that faction, dude. That means high elves left, no longer part of the alliance.

Alliance has more chance to get undead on their side than helfs, honestly.

You sound like a troll to me.

You said “I refuse to accept Blizzard’s own books as facts of their own lore”

You’re literally arguing your opinion is MORE correct than Blizzard’s own writing. That’s straight up delusional or trolling in my book.

[Kiblee-moon-guard (Kiblee)]

can you don’t

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

They renamed themselves the Blood Elves long before they joined the Horde for out-of-lore marketing reasons.

Blood Elves were designed for the Horde.

Chris Metzen, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2005, 1:55 … 'Blood Elves were chosen as the Horde expansion race in the Burning Crusade because designers were thrilled with how well Samwise had redesigned the classic wood elves with the night elves. And they knew that, “one day, high elves are going to have to get a facelift, too.

“ I don’t think anyone has abused high elves to this degree ,” Metzen said.

Blood Elves were designed for the Horde with a rewrite on the classic High Elf Trope just as Night Elves were designed for the Alliance with a rewrite on the classic Wood Elf trope.

Careful, anything too factual to joy is considered “tainted knowledge” and “dubiously canon sources!”

even when it’s from the core creators of the game itself.

[Zemus-hyjal]

sings No no no no no no no no no.

[Joyeuse-barthilas (Joyeuse)]

Now you’re just being spiteful that I know the lore better than you do. Rude.

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

Now you’re just being spiteful that I know the lore better than you do. Rude.

Yup, someone who blatantly says “The lore of the people who created the franchise itself is wrong! MY lore is the REAL lore!” knows their lore better. Maybe in your own head

Maybe you got too far into those Warcraft fanfics you were reading and confused them with REAL lore

[Joyeuse-barthilas (Joyeuse)]

Myself and many longtime fans do, in fact, know Warcraft’s original lore better than many of the employees Blizzard hired during World of Warcraft’s lifetime. That’s why the game’s history is such a mess. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone.

[Korthre-mannoroth (Korthre)]

I thought they hired people for for that kind of quality control, and even in Blizzcon they didn’t know their own lore. A lot of time they have to be corrected. I think it is much better now since there is a loremaster person that doubles checks that everything is correct, but before, lol!

[Drougen-emerald-dream (Drougen)]

Myself and many longtime fans do, in fact, know Warcraft’s original lore better than many of the employees Blizzard hired during World of Warcraft’s lifetime.

You know how many people work at Blizzard…? They literally just fired over 800 employees after record breaking profits, of course the fans know the lore better than MANY employees of Blizzard.

That’s like saying you know just as much about making sandwhiches most people who work at subway.

[Lavinnelly-dathremar (Lavinnelly)]

Myself and many longtime fans do, in fact, know Warcraft’s original lore better than many of the employees Blizzard hired during World of Warcraft’s lifetime.

You know how many people work at Blizzard…? They literally just fired over 800 employees after record breaking profits, of course the fans know the lore better than MANY employees of Blizzard.

That’s like saying you know just as much about making sandwhiches most people who work at subway.

don’t you know, “the customer is always right”

[Wrathhoof-wyrmrest-accord (Wrathhoof)]

Myself and many longtime fans do, in fact, know Warcraft’s original lore better than many of the employees Blizzard hired during World of Warcraft’s lifetime.

Thats pretty funny considering how often I see you getting out lored by other people in the forums.

[Joyeuse-barthilas (Joyeuse)]

I’ve never been “out lored” once in my entire life. People are free to live the fantasy that the elves of Quel’thalas are in the Horde for any reason other than marketing.

[Dârak-wyrmrest-accord (Dârak)]

this would of been interesting back when they did BC.

but…
ya know, they didn’t.

[Wrathhoof-wyrmrest-accord (Wrathhoof)]

I’ve never been “out lored” once in my entire life.

Suuuuuuurrrreeee

[Nelluced-proudmoore]

Given the game’s chosen history this actually makes the most sense. It’s kind of weird that the Elves of Silvermoon randomly decided to forget millennia of strife with trolls, war with all the horde races (barring Tauren) having lost family etc throughout all of it because of Sylvanas. But also given the amount of cooperation that has gone on since BC it would make sense some elves like the horde. Making them a neutral race is really the only sane solution.

[Zimos-dark-iron (Zimos)]

inb4 topic shut down.

[Carissaria-aggramar]

From what I see here on the forums, the Blood Elves love Female Elf Arthas as their Warchief. Why would they abandon her and their Troll BFFs?

Arthas only killed 90% of their population and they were only enemies with the trolls for like forever. (Not the darkspear, but the original Horde and trolls in general).

[Carissaria-aggramar]

And now they’re not

I assume you haven’t played Alliance at all this expac then.