This is trash. My sustain and damage in BGs are horrible. You just get singled out because everyone knows DH’s aren’t a threat including yourself. I feel like an NPC spawned by an actual player to do DoT and then die while they do the real damage.
I never really played DH in its prime but even I can tell this nerf is atrocious considering what this kit is limited to. It’s hardly passable as a class and has no business in pvp. Especially in a 1v1.
Speak for yourself on this one.
I enjoy DH in pvp, I definitely agree that we need some love, but the situation we are in is not as world ending as people like yourself seem to want to proclaim it is.
If you don’t enjoy it, there is nothing stopping you from playing another class.
I’m jealous that you are having a good time. I love the class too or else I wouldn’t have cared to even say anything here. Just expressing that DH was done dirty. The disparity in what other classes have is crazy to the point that I have no choice but to pick another class. That’s just how I feel.
I didn’t know it was this bad until I started doing pvp which I love to do equally with PvE.
I don’t know how geared your DH is either I suppose. Having said that, I would suggest giving Vengeance a try. I have been having a ton of fun in all forms of pvp playing Vengeance.
So you want them to completely remove a class from everyone, regardless if they enjoy it or not, instead of making them better?
Classic forum logic of course.
no that would be ridiculous. Just adding to the frustration that DH needs more attention.
you need some gear to be effective. DH seem to scale really well with ilvl, our ramp seems pretty sharp.
also people are saying the hunt or bust, however im having a ton of success with sinful brand. it scales with haste, and eye beam gives us 15% flat haste on a full cast, which happens more than you think.
DH is not a face roll class, at least not anymore. you have to pick your moments. you get a “go” window about once every 30 seconds with an eye beam cast + demonic.
you get a really juicy “go” window every minute with an eye beam+sinful brand.
you get a GIGA juicy “go” window on meta CD, try to get a eye beam cast off, then meta into your target, hold your sinful brand, as meta will apply one, then on your next eye beam throw your sinful brand, meta is still up. this is extreme damage.
beyond all that, you need to duck and dive, juke and stuff. bait in the melee, vengeful retreat, eye beam. bait them some more, dash. you know? time to really sharpen your teeth with this class and fine tune your mobility and utility. good luck dog.
I know, I tend to post over-serious questions to obvious things. Good luck on your fight.
Yeah I hear you, I feel the same way. I feel absolutely useless there’s 0 kill pressure besides the 1.5min Hunt convent ability. It’s definitely a shell of what it once was. I just play my ret pally alt who is 15ilvls below my dh and the burst and kill potential is every 30-40seconds. The burst, utility, and control is insane compared to what a DH offers.
I finally hit 1900 in 2s this season and it was beyond a struggle and my entire kill pressure was just pressuring 20secs before the hunt came up, and if they parried it, dodged it, stunned me, bubble it, bop’d it, pain sup it’d, or anything with damage reduction youll never kill them. So I would then run away for another min sitting behind pillars activity trying not to play the game
I really enjoy my dh in battlegrounds/m+. I do find myself struggling in 2v2 arena only way I survive is if I pop nether walk at a perfect time. In Rbgs I find myself at the top the damage lists on a consistent basis.
A fine way to summarize this thread and those like it.
So far, this is the best Haugs post of 2020. And there have been many other good ones lol
You’ve played 23 games of 3s, how would you possibly know what DHs needs or doesnt need in arena lol
I’ve played much more games. Even got the darkness legendary to see if it helps. Summary: DH sucks in pvp but viable with an op teammate.
I do wonder if we become stronger after unlocking more covenant conduits/soulbinds.
Also, bigger health pools might make rain from above stronger.
I don’t understand the label of “DH sucks in pvp” 2s in a arena are an uphill battle. 3s (I haven’t competed in any so far) I heard were viable. Rbgs, completely viable with the aoe for team fights.
The only kill pressure a DH has is the hunt, which is easily avoidable, after that almost impossible to land a kill outside of the hunt. Last season it was mana burn but the average game is under a minute long in 2s. I made it to 1900 in 2s and pretty much now done with arena as a dh. Every single class has more burst, more pressure, more utility and more control then anything a DH offers. Even big darkness is a joke I’ve died so many times in big dark procing off the leg it’s unbelievable, would trade 100% for a flat % reduction
This. Big darkness and had the worst rng possible against a fire mage who hit every single spell during combustion. 70% dodge my foot.
He’s just saying that DH needs more love. BFA demon hunter I can admit was overpowered at times, BUT I think they did us real dirty in Shadowlands. They have to increase our leech or increase something defensively. The class just feels very fragile compared to everyone else. I don’t want to see other classes nerfed, I just think that we need minor tuning or something that at least allows us to stand out.
The thread doesn’t say a single thing that’s remotely constructive. What does my games played have anything to do with that?
I’ve played twelve games of 3’s. Not sure where you’re getting 23.
You understand the first actual queue session I do, I’ll hit 2.1k in 3’seasily? Lmfao. 2.4K in 2’s won’t be much of a challenge either. I’m in no rush while most of my pvp friends are out of town and on vacation.