Just another angry Frost DK topic

Why, for the love of GOD, does blizzard actively hate the Frost DK community?

Unholy DK’s are getting some really nice changes from them listening to Feedback, Blood is getting some really nice changes from feedback,

Meanwhile Frost DK Development
“Oh? Breath of Sindragosa is being outperformed by something? Lets just simply nerf everything else and force Frost DKs to play BoS again, Thats good development.”

“Oh? Frost DKs actively hate the Breath of Sindragosa playstyle? Let’s buff Breath of Sindragosa Playstyle :smiley: !”

“Oh? 2h is doing better with a build that isn’t Breath of Sindragosa? Yeah alright, lets nerf obliterate to bring that back in line”

We have been practically forced into Breath of Sindragosa forever. FINALLY thanks to Azerite we have been able to go Icecap which has been a godsend. But of course, Azerite is going away, Icecap is going to fall back into being mediocre, and BoS will end up taking its place once again. Just remove or rework the talent. its Horrendous to play with. We basically feel like a wet noodle until BoS is off cooldown, and then we have a “intuitive” one button rotation of Obliterate because we spending Runic Power is a DPS Loss since it’ll end BoS.

I get it, This has been brought up time and time again and I’m just ranting. But seriously, Once Breath of Sindragosa has been used, Frost DK gives Arcane Mage a run for their money in terms of being braindead easy and requiring no actual input form the player.

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If that is the go to talent come live then that will suck.

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I also want to rant about the covenant abilities right now because (Lul Night Fae DK) but one rant at a time.

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As a former frost player, I totally understand. I stopped playing frost because I disliked breath.
Blizz did revert the most recent UH changes for dark transformation has honestly has been good to UH.
Blood change was bitter sweet. Everyone will still take bloodtap as a talent. So it didn’t really fix anything.
They are still tuning. Hopefully more things will come.
I want necrolord to he good in pve. Vause I’m taking it pvp wise regardless.

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Number tuning is just starting, only time will tell. I have a feeling that boa will be the dw build, and oblit will be the 2h build.

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The only thing that has really been nerfed is obliterate. Its lower than the BFA value in SL right now. 90% of attack power in BFA, ~74% in SL.

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I will still be playing with obliteration over BoS just feels better to me more control.

Will mix death and decay for frost death knights and abomination limb ability for death knights before BoS. (Death and decay and abomination limb I pray get fixed but not holding my breath at this point) :confused:

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Most likely due to the second rank giving KM frost damage which makes it scale with our mastery and razorice.

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It only scales on proc auto attacks that give KM, and since ive been playing the beta there have been very few 2H users having Razorice as a rune. Maybe from the Glacial Advance talent, but it doesnt shine as well as Gathering Storm ever will.

IMO the best reason to maybe nerf Oblit like they are is to make Oblit to permanent Frost dmg, not based off of a proc. So it can always scale mastery. Then 2h and DW will be an easier beast to balance. 2H will always want Obliteration Talent and pump hard single target, while DW will always be the more reliable AoE with Razorice. Or even make Razorice baseline for the specs and have DW use Rune of Hysteria so its more Runic Power focused for all the breath users.

I get it, This has been brought up time and time again and I’m just ranting. But seriously, Once Breath of Sindragosa has been used, Frost DK gives Arcane Mage a run for their money in terms of being braindead easy and requiring no actual input form the player.

As opposed to icecap which is… the same static rotation but with more pillar of frost presses? Icecap is literally the lowest skillcap option of the three talents lol so why would you pander to icecap by saying BOS leads to low skillcap gameplay?

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I feel like this kinda further exacerbate the problem if anything.

If Obliterate gets a number tuning because of KM58 or MotFW, might as well not have them both in the first place.

We’ll see though, I hope that Obliterate would still be a good ability in Shadowlands prepatch as well as the Physical Damage component of it.

Did you guys think that tuning was going to just not happen?

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I sincerely hope this is the case or something similar to this. I am definitely not a fan of BoS and with the return of 2h Frost, I am actually very hopeful to give Frost another go.

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While I’m by no means arguing that Icecap is an easy playstyle, at the very least you arent punished for using other abilities in your kit instead of Obliterate. This is even larger of a problem in Shadowlands where we have several Frost Strike oriented Conduits that we are essentially punished for having if going Breath of Sindragosa, due to the fact that “Lul spending runic power bad”

Oh man I wasn’t even aware Blizzard doesn’t like Frost. I love my frost DK because of the skills. I can’t play UH or Blood because they don’t fit the play style I want. Not too mention I played shaman for many years which is also a class people say Blizzard hates.

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Breath is one of the most uninteresting play-styles in the game.

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This really saddens me. I want to play 2H frost again. I actually enjoyed Breath during night hold but it got old quick and I swapped to UH on my main and never looked back.

So much better

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Why not just use Obliteration 2H? Seems like a decent replacement for Breath.

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Breath playstyle sucks fooooor sure, also OP needs a hug, they have many rants to type. On the bright side, Frost looks good for pvp.

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