Just a reminder on the actual pvp rankings

moonkin>>>pally>>hunter> ele sham> everyone else.

if i were pressed on a 5th i would put rogues and warriors up there as well though rogue loses points in that they arent the greatest in group pvp fights and are more of a 1v1 and small scale class (2 rogues assaulting a point though vs 1 or 2 defenders is a pita though).

moonkin is clearly head and tails above everyone else as they actually are what people posed ele to be but with 10 extra yards range , better dots, better defensives, ect ect.

pallies (im not saying the spec cause i believe it could be multiple spec/gear combos) are able to 2 global people on a regular basis reliably so i dont believe the super lucky rng crap. they can also do this while immune to everything but balefire bolt and need a nerf to their damage done while bubbled.

i still put hunter 3rd cause a well played ranged hunter spamming traps and damage is a fearsome sight to behold and go against.

and ya ele 4th. strong but not as op as the 3 above it and if they take away the speed on the wolves they will end up more of a free kill than alot of people think.

those are the rankings currently.

discuss.

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There’s 5 really good PvP classes right now - Shaman, Paladin, Rogue, Hunter, Druid. They’re all close enough that I don’t think you really need to rank them.

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with all this in mind, how would u rank them?

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I disagree, paladins and boomkins are way more broken than post nerf shamans and rogues and still even decently better than hunters. They’re not close at all. Rogues, shamans and hunters are just good. boomkins and pallies are just gamebreaking right now. haven’t touched a bg or any form of actual pvp besides running to bwl since hitting rank 13 and never plan on it as long as those 2 classes remain in their current broken state.

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Oh wow another one of those Horde people who had to xfer over to Crusader Strike and ruin this server. It is actually called a realm. Blizzard calls them realms and you ruined my place. Got this mage, human paladin, and NE rogue on CS.

I hate dealing with the ammo. They arent any good until Cata drops imo…well they are actually.

Sub rouge are top of the top in regular non SoD Classic.

Ret Paladins doing full damage in bubble with their new SOD toys is pretty stupid, I’ll agree on that as there’s just no way to counter it other than running away(which you often can’t). I did an AB the other day and its funny AF when you got 3 or so bubbled up Paladins charging into our back line at the initial Blacksmith clash with Boomies in their back line acting as artillery support deleting everyone. That was a premade though.

I know all the fuss is about Boomies these days but if I had to pick one in PvP I’d say Rogue is king which is why I’m playing one now. Boomies may be better in group PvP but 1v1(which is what I enjoy the most) its definitely Rogue.

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SoD will be over soon and pallies will go to sucking again. No DS for me in regular 60 WoW.

Thinking a Moonkin > Spriest is funny.

Stop whining about imbalances, if they try and fix it the wheel of your complaints will just turn as expected.

i wish this game had better devs =[

Yeah people were just pretending shammies were doing what boomies are now doing. Waiting for your profile to become a boomie and your comments about them becoming softer…

The true list is something like
boomies>>>>>>>>>>>>>pally>hunter/ele>spriest/rogue>warr
If the paladin is a shockadin add one or two >> between them and hunter and remove a few between them and boomies (requires lots of OS gear from raids very annoying to assemble and very few ppl bother)

Maybe hunter is a little better than ele but overall they’re pretty close.

Within AB I think rogues are very OK, it is actually incredibly hard to backcap vs any of the tank classes. metalock/shammies/druids all have the ability to shift form and be completely immune to both sap and MC cap while defending flag. They’re pratically unbeatable 1v1 for the rogue as well (crits for 400-600 depending on your gear and they have like 14k hp lol). I think they could actually be extremely powerful in group battles but you’d need to let the rogue/s intro with saps and CCs and have teammates who know to play around it.

Shaman apologists trying to rewrite history smh.

Only one class had to be nerfed in the duel tourny, that was shamans.

They are top way above anything else

Warlocks were not allowed to use their spells.

Thinking Moonkin is not decidedly superior to Spriest in every way is comical.

Even Spriest dots tick for less than a moonkin’s at this point. Not to mention the nuclear 5k starfire crits in pvp.

Delusional if you think stacking hunters is better than shamans , literally delusional again

Sup chatgpt

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nah I was just bored and googled ____ facts.

“Rogue facts” was very informative

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bro this is p5, not p3.

Funny he never talked about pvp when shamans were dominating for the last 4 phases.

Rank 1 @utistic poster
Xtrasecksi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>whocares

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funny that i have been posting for all of sod and have posted about pvp in all the phases.

so youre wrong.