At the beginning of the expansion, if my memory serves me correctly, bismuths were for over 100gold each. Some time passed and they were only worth 30gold each. Now, a few weeks ago, the price increased to 70gold. Why do prices vary so much?
Btw, will WoW Token ever be worth 180-200k again?
- Demand
- Supply
- Patch Cycle
For the most part, in the most simplified way, these are the 3 drivers of economic pricing in the game.
EDIT: The bismuth issue most likely has to do with Goblins starting to get ready for the next patch. Buying bulk to resell, or to craft early items, etc. when patch drops. This is about the time that rich players start to line up their inventory in preparation for those first weeks of profits.
Another very possible explanation might be realm-specific that you are witnessing an attempt to reset the market by someone.
Maybe, it depends on the value of items available for gold at the cash shop, versus the difficulty to make gold in-game for the general population. Among other things.
Currently there are a lot of attractive things on the shop for the general population, so the token will be bought more, which keeps the price up.
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Pretty much
No idea.
I miss 20K tokens 
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Is it worth farming Bismuths and only selling them when the next season starts?
Depends on what your goals are.
Is it worth to farm a raw material to sell when patch drops? The answer is always yes from the point of view that it is an item that will always be in demand. It will sell, relatively fast.
However, is it the most effective way to make gold, or use of your time right now? That is another story.
Raw goods are always good to sell, only investment you need is time.
Now if you want to make more gold per hour, then I’d suggest to look into diversifying, meaning looking into what things can you craft with bismouth, that when sold, could increase the gold yield per time spent creating. If that isn’t too much of your jam, yeah selling it first week of patch will most likely result in higher profit.
There is no guarantee though. Its a trend, but timing is key. Make sure you don’t post in the middle of a price war, or on the low end of mass postings.
Another thing to think about is that because the new patch takes everyone to a new zone, the assumption usually is that less people will be farming bismouth, which could mean a higher price for the mat moving forward, since there will be less supply.
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Might have something to do with a heavy exploit that allowed players (and especially bots) with a specific Mining talent to loot some Bismuth nodes over and over. Considering that the prices increased again, Blizzard might have finally fixed it.
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Thank you for your tips!
Just one last question. I’ve noticed that the price of Null Stone is very low, only 110 gold, but it’s hard to drop. I have Mining fully leveled in the Bismuths and Ironclaws section and almost never manage to drop one. I think I get about 1-3 per hour. Am I bugged or is the drop rate really that low? How many do you guys get?
Null Stone dropped dramatically in price because of two main things:
- More people are talented into it with Mining now that they finished the other areas they had points on. And as a consequence everyone already crafted what they needed.
- More people realized the additional way to acquire it via the Odd Glob of Wax NPCs. I cannot confirm if this was available at launch.
You can go an exchange wax for the Rubies that you use as currency and buy the boxes of rocks, which now have a pretty high chance of containing Null Stones or Imperfect pieces.
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Tokens are only that low at expansions launches when people sell for gold, it might go down at the beginning of the patch
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To the first question, it’s either demand has gone up or people are stocking up for the incoming S2. Material prices pretty much always skyrocket at the start of the season because people are recrafting gear, so a lot of people start buying up materials a few weeks before hand. It could also be people just trying to mess with prices since that happens sometimes.
Tokens will slowly fall back down. They have already dropped some, but I imagine they will be down to 250k sooner or later. Unsure if they will tank down to 200k since the biggest drops tend to be at the start of an expansion when many people return and there’s a huge supply of tokens.
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just as soon as they put another auction house mount up on the cash shop lol
Over time, my crafters’ consumption of bismuth has greatly outstripped my need for weavercloth, or for mycobloom. Namely, core alloys for blacksmiths, bolts for my engineer, and 'gem crushing" for my jewelcrafter, are the biggest culprits, and it’s not even close. Needing bismuth constantly to craft is keeping the demand high for sure.
Bot farmers. It’s just what happens in the game.
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How would that lower the prices of tokens?
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The in game value is based on supply and demand. The only way the in-game value climbs is when there is a greater need. $15m in AH mounts created that need last time.
People would be buying more tokens to buy the mount, which would increase the token price
Not lower it
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It was 239 or so just this month lol? Or we talking about wanting the price to drop?
Literally what I just said… twice. The only way token values climb is if there is a demand. There’s nothing special to buy right now, so tokens are leveled out, and pretty low.
Flippers are some of the reason. Price finds a floor at 30 gold…flipper sees that they are selling so worth the risk…buys them up to 70.
You know tokens are well above 180-200k right?
They’re currently 280k, so they were asking about them going down in price
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