In case you were wondering, people still can’t do LFR N’Zoth without more wipes than a toilet paper supply factory. For 430 gear. Stop designing stuff thinking the players will improve Blizzard. For the most part, they don’t.
In before: “But my group 1 shot it! l2p”
That is very much an outlier.
I love it when LFR is harder than Heroic, it brings a smile to my face.
But no seriously (aside from usually Tuesday/Wednesday when alot of competent players do it for echoes) LFR is alot harder than Heroic for N’Zoth.
It doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I kill N’Zoth on Heroic every week. Maybe if Blizzard added the Malefic Core to LFR N’Zoth, geared people would carry the scrubs.
I’ve found the LFR N’zoth kill isn’t too bad if you have someone take charge.
I usually do that since I usually tank, so I organize the groups and make /rw macros to spam to help people, as from what I’ve seen most wipes are because people just don’t know what to do and need to be directed.
I usually kill him after 2-3 wipes. I think people are overblowing how hard he is for LFR as most likely no one is stepping up to take a leadership position to lead the group.
Though I guess you could argue that LFR shouldnt require someone to organize the group to clear it.
Nah then people would just make groups of 25 and queue everyone for a quick clear.
Really wish blizz would do this. No reason not to add it at this point.
All competent players/guilds would just pre-make a group of 25 and queue it. LFR would probably be even harder.
This is true, but I don’t think it will ever change. Kil’Jaeden and Archimonde were seriously overtuned for LFR as well, and it was a complete nightmare, so N’Zoth being severely overtuned for 410 player minimum item level doesn’t surprise me. But yes, 410 item level requirement is SEVERELY low for LFR right now, the way it is tuned at the moment. DPS usually isn’t nearly enough on psychus portal phase and usually takes several wipes before the dps is there on top and bottom, lol. It’s a crap shoot at best, that’s for sure. However, I actually like to see people working together in LFR, which makes it that much sweeter to kill him.
But there also is really no reason to change it for the simple fact that LFR gear from n’zoth and carapace is only 440 anyway, so it’s pretty trivial tbh. And there’s only just a quest to kill him and get some cruddy reward.
LFR is easy with guidance.
Maybe first few weeks but we’ve got it now. It doesn’t appear to be constant 10 determination stacks anymore.
(Plus the neck comes off CD so often that you can use it off CD in LFR)
You really just need one person who knows the fight to take lead. These wipes happen because players have no idea how to “go down” or what to do when they get down there.
Also, afks on this fight make it that much harder. LFR is well known for afk players for free gold/loot/w/e
I highly doubt that. I know I’d rather just PuG it myself between guild stuff rather than try to drag my guildies into it.
And if the competent players already aren’t doing it and this is the motivation to get them to do it, if like you said would just make groups with each other than it would have 0 effect on the PuG LFR groups as these people are already not doing it.
But I think these people would rather PuG it than try to make a group over LFR.
I have answered this before, and I will quote myself again. As some have mentioned already, LFR’s are smooth if there is leadership. Here:
Can somebody explain to me why, exactly, people should be allowed to beat the boss if they cannot, ya know, beat the boss?
The answer is they shouldn’t.
my thoughts exactly. the only reason lfr is harder than heroic is because of the people in lfr. they need to learn or keep hitting a wall. a game about progression shouldn’t hand out end game gear just because you can breath. it devalues the effort and extremely lowers the satisfaction of earning gear.
N’Zoth and Lei Shen seem to have one thing in common. The LFR version is harder than the Heroic version.
I still have PTSD from trying to do LFR Lei Shen.
LFR kills required for mythic pugs?
What is hard about it? I genuinely don’t know and would like to be educated
I guess I got incredibly lucky with the LFR group I had.
Wiped two times, but once everyone understood who was going down and who was staying the fight was incredibly trivial.