Felt like my heals were dog poo…CC’d to death, yanked all over the map…
Literally felt like there was nothing I could do to effect change in the game, tried to stealth and wait then pop to heal, use cover…I tried to change it up…
Just felt lost…I cannot imagine what new players would or do think…
Freely admit my gear is very sub par but I had no idea it was that bad of uneven field wow…
I hope Dragonflight changes some things up… this is a zerg fest pile of poo…
TBC is like a one-shot powder loaded musket while Retail is a chain-gun. The skill sets are different because of the pace of the game.
It really helps to play with knowledgeable people who can teach you what is going on. You need a pretty in-depth knowledge of all potential cooldowns before you will understand when you are in trouble and how to respond.
For the casual player, having to do that much homework and guides just to play a facet of the game is quite jarring… TBC you had to learn some stuff true but retail is quite something else…
I get the gear argument but in past exp… sure you went into a game with a geared guy but you could still do “Something”…
I literally pop out of stealth and is 1 shot period end of story…not a chance, not a single heal, nothing I press, do or try does a single bit of difference…
I tried BGs, Shuffle (New to me) skirmish and the moment I came to heal or cc or something I was instantly deleted…
That is not fun gameplay to someone just starting out (But I bet it is for the person who “Earned” their gear and I fully understand that but that is not a good business model for the millions of casual trying to jump in…)
TBC going against a season 3-4 guy, I could still stand somewhat of chance, If I skilled correctly, a well timed cyclone, entangling roots, natures swift and heal but not in shadowlands…
im geared and get smoked sometimes. the meta is not fun for anyone really and part of it is that its so easy to do damage.i feel almost 0 difference between 1900 and 2300 mmr in the amount of damage people are doing. but you are right having 0 gear on retail right now you stand a negative chance. season starts tomorrow so grind up some honor and save it until then and you will be caught up in no time
I’m not trying to downplay your skill in the game or anything but you play druid. I 100% guarantee 90% of the games you play lifebloom does 80% + of your healing. You can’t just 1 button rotation in live. And you also have to react to CDS way more since you cant just run away. Everyone and their mother has a gap closer in live. TBCC feels like everyone just RP walks everywhere.
EDIT: And if you are playing druid in live its actually one of the hardest healers to play in the game.
The gear difference between a fresh 70 and a season 4 geared character is a
considerably smaller gap in power than a fresh shadowlands 60 and a rival 1 season 3 geared character. This is because there a wider ilvl gap in the gear AND compounding systems like renown, legendaries, and soulbinds that effect your performance significantly in pvp.
If you’re fresh, like haven’t played shadowlands at all fresh hitting 60 right now. You’ll have around a 100 ilvl gap in gear, no legendaries, no soulbinds, and no renown (which gives passive % based stamina increases at various levels). You might as well compare someone at lvl 70 in tbc wearing full vanilla pvp gear to a full brutal glad character. It’s a huge power gap, it’s never been this bad before. Ever.
Take that as compliment! As a Vet I have heard worse by far so I appreciate the kind words.
Actually quite the opposite,…
Even with lifebloom, I put Cenward, regrowth, rejuv and it does hardly any healing…the ilvl which I am now just starting to understand more is quite drastic to what I am facing…
I have 168 with no Legends, soul conduits and such so yes that drastic difference is on me 100% and freely admit that.
But it should not be that Drastic in that you have no option, no chance period, that is bad game design in just my humble opinion…
TBC, Classic, Wrath (Never played cata) even facing someone in season 4 you may have had a chance if you had skill and that is a big iff but still doable…
Ex- I came out of a gate in a 3v3 I think shuffle and had a rogue pop up behind me and hit me for triple my health, literally died in seconds … there was no button that I could have pushed or a single thing I could have done…
TBC, warstomp, bear bash, natures grasp would be options, sure I would be hurting on health but at least I had a chance…
The game now is more reactive where it would require you to appropriately respond to cds. If you don’t trade, you normally end up falling behind significantly or even worse just losing. So its better to understand the cooldowns of classes and their potency before jumping into arenas in order to have the fundamentals down atleast. After that, its all about understanding the strengths and weaknesses of comps which you’ll naturally acquire by queue’ing more.
Rdruid is the most gear dependent healer in the entire game it is completely useless with low gear where as hpal or priest can still have decent impact with lower gear
You also can’t forget mace stun, stun resist and silence resists that TBC has. I peaked at 2100 on tbc classic and just couldn’t take having my kidneys, garroted and cheap shots resisted.
I much prefer retail arena even though I’m still shaking the rust off.
@op you are not the only one, I would recommend figuring out what you want to play then watching some of the rank 1s playing and take notes. It sounds lame but I was able to hit 1700 as a frost mage from 0 in like 3 hours after not playing one since MoP a few weeks ago.