It was a really bad joke and not funny can I have my money back?
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Why would you be entitled to a refund?
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When a pro player like Pikaboo doesn’t know how people are dying in an arena match that is when you know PVP is in big trouble in BFA.
I thought the point of pruning was to make it easier for watchers/viewers to follow along and also players to play?
BFA to me is very complicated from a PVP point of view and I started PVP since WoTLK…
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Match Starts!
Corruption Procs!
Someone wins!
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If your monthly sub only offered you access to Arenas and nothing else, you might have a legitimate claim.
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So you are playing a game designed from the ground up for PvE with PvP thrown in as an afterthought and you are surprised when it has issues?
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To be honest they don’t care.
They tried for 10 years to have arena be some form of esport and competitiveness and its failed. Now it’s just a place for people to screw around.
Getting to the point where I am tired of complaining and going to find something else to do with my time. Get a refund for Shadowlands while I am at it.
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That’s not correct. PvP was one aspect of the game and you can still see that on the classic servers today with BGs, PvP vendors and PvP servers for WPvP.
Arena was introduced in TBC so that avenue of content with its own leaderboard has been around for a long time.
Also this. They did try to balance with the aim to become an esport but that focus has unfortunately shifted post WoD
With the current corruption system and RNG within RNG; it’s a total mess, not worth the time and unsatisfying
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I highly recommend a refund of shadowlands ASAP.
It is looking like a late spring/summer beta of shadowlands and we don’t know the length because alpha isn’t out yet. Maybe this week or next but beyond that and the future of shadowlands becomes more uncertain.
Did not even bother using the 120 boost. Every time I ask myself do I want to grind another character out for more rng on rng and maybe some more rng my stomach churns and I get a migraine.
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PvP has been in since day 1, but it has never been an integral part of WoW.
You look at everything in WoW that is PvE based, then look at the PvP side of things, even from day 1, and it is easy to see that WoW was designed specifically around PvE and decided to add PvP later.
Also, if they were to put more PvP in the game and less PvE they would lose tons more subs then they would gain simply from PvE players being pissed that PvP was being focused on more.
I wish they would have PvP specific gear that was worthless in PvE and same with PvE gear, which would only be good in PvE. They should have NOTHING from PvP that would help in PvE and NOTHING from PvE that would help in PvP.
Warmode where you get a bonus 10% xp is a slap in the face to PvE gamers, and gear MAINLY only being available through PvE activities is a slap in the face to PvP gamers.
Separate the two and stop trying to make people do both.
In the end though, WoW is absolutely a PvE focused game and always will be, but they always try to add some type of PvP to attract that small percentage of gamers.
Fallout 76 thought more people would want to do PvP and recently announced they had no idea there were mso many more PvE focused players who have no desire to PvP, hence why they have went way over budget making the new expansion almost all PvE focused, they want to get the main gamer base back.
Why not just disable corruption from arena and bgs? Even if they do find a way to balance it. The next expansion will be out by then. I seriously doubt there is a quick fix to the problems corruption brings to the pvp part of the game.
If this is the intent and vision of organized pvp. There will be even less people participating. I saw only 3 teams forming in RBGs earlier out of millions of players. The arena lfg is not very deep either and most groups are struggling to find a healer. This was on horde side too. Did not even bother going to my ally alt.
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Agree with some of your points for sure
PvP was significant enough to have its own stat introduced, resilience. They further went on to test the idea of stat templates to introduce more balance specially for PvP without disrupting pve.
Imo, while that had its own flaws, they were working in the right direction and I feel should have made it better
I’d argue that PvP had more participation then because it had better balanced, reward and progression. As that eroded over time, they left for other games that provided that avenue.
There are players that would only want to do PvP or PvE. The system should be able to accommodate either or both without forcing one over the other.
This would give the product better reach and with more players, maybe they will try other content avenues. More ppl, faster access to content
In WoD, folks who only wanted to PvP could enjoy doing battlegrounds and not feel forced to PvE to be competitive or stand an equal chance
Today, in order to have better gear and corruption fast, you need to PvE
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Omgggggg 
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Meh PVP is still fun can go into a BG on my DH and smack people around.
Removing pvp from the game would solve 99% of so called balancing issues
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Bro love your forum avatar! Nice mog!
e-sporting “”" pvp has literally nothing to do with any of it’s issues at all
if anything they dont e-sport pvp on live servers AT ALL
since they allow all the disgusting broken pve gear mechanics then disable them on the tournament realms
https://clips.twitch.tv/BlazingTalentedEchidnaLeeroyJenkins
Watch the mistweaver monk in the top left of the screen at 18 seconds.
This is on the tourny realm too.