Ji Firepaw and Aysa Cloudsinger's Current Relationship

The two pandaren leaders and friends were divided by the faction war throughout Mists of Pandaria, apparent reconciled after the Siege of Orgrimmar, and were together still at the start of War Crimes.

While the two were working together in Legion in the Monk Class Hall, Ji apparently returned to Orgrimmar and the Horde’s ranks as well. What do you think their current relationship is, would they fight each other if they crossed paths?

Probably not. Ji doesn’t seem to be actively participating in any of the Horde’s official operations. He’s mostly just along for the ride so he can punch dinosaurs.

Incidentally, Aysa is also back in the ranks of the Alliance, and is on the Wind’s Redemption. She similarly doesn’t do a whole lot.

They’re probably still together, and will just pick right back up, once we make peace again.

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I think they will both leave their respective faction once the next expansion World of Warcraft: Pandaria’s Revenge comes out and the Pandaren go into their own third faction and begin embarking on a Roman Empire style conquest of the entire planet.

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Blizz really screwed up by having the leaders of the Horde and Alliance pandaren be in love with each other. I’m sure at the time during MoP someone on the story team thought it’d be a nice statement on how war divides us, but in the long run it just means that playable pandaren have absolutely zero presence in the story.

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They really should have just stayed on the turtle after SoO. It was so heartwarming seeing them there in Legion.

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Once the factions are disolved they will be together again.

Maybe, just maybe Ji will punch Nathanos’s head off.

A Shaman can hope.

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There are, however, both Tushui and Huojin monks fighting in the invasions of Zuldazar and Tiragarde, respectively.

From what I saw from doing the WQs on either side, the Tushui monks are pandaren (or at least mainly pandaren), but the Huojin are non-Pandaren Horde students.

Though that hasn’t put the two directly at odds, their groups aren’t uninvolved.

No, it could have worked well. I mean, writers have managed to do well with this trope. Its BfA where they that screwed that up. With al the moral grey gone, they can’t really do anything that isn’t more whacks of the villain bat.

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“It’s complicated”

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I just don’t think it would’ve worked in the long term, whether or not the Horde got villain-batted. As long as the separate factions exist, they will be opposed to each other. That doesn’t mean open war, but it does mean skirmishes and the like. For two of the racial leaders to be in a relationship with each other means those two will always be frozen out of any big storylines, because there’s no way to really make it work without them either breaking up or just not participating in anything that could harm the others faction.

Hence, we have virtually every racial leader (aside from Velen and Lor’themar) doing something this time around…except Ji and Aysa. They both just sit around not doing anything. And since Blizz has decided that racial leaders’ stories = stories for the playable races they represent, that means once again playable pandaren might as well not exist as their own group.

Perhaps both leaders can return to neutrality? Or at least make a neutral faction or group of some kind? The pandaren never seemed to really belong in the toxic faction war, they seem in a sense meant to be “above” it all.

I’m gonna tell you this - if Ji and Aysa do nothing for all of BfA, and Blizzard just arbitrarily separated them from their happy ending on the turtle for no reason, there are gonna be TAXES to pay and I’m gonna see 'em payed.

Inb4 Sylvanas sends Ji on a special mission to kill Aysa in order to test his loyalty too the Horde.

i’m surprised they haven’t followed through with the philosophical concept of “hate follows love”. Which is basically the more you love someone the harder you’ll hate them once you start hating them.

Grand, Grand, Grand. You know Chen is the only panda allowed to do anything.

He is? Cause Rexxar and Rokhan are here, and I’m not seeing my boi.

(I’m kidding, Chen, please, grab Li Li and run away from this story, save your character)

Anything, not everything. Pandaren don’t show up much, but if they do, it must be Chen. It’s in his contract.

(Unless it involves dying, like that WQ Pandaren who exists to tell the Horde how evil they are.)

I’m genuinely surprised that this hasn’t happened yet.

I doubt Ji would ever really bring himself to harm Aysa, Horde or not, their relationship goes back longer than the Horde existed, probably.