Jaina's Arc in BFA. Full circle or Properly Developed?

[Xamantul-ragnaros]

@Anyaceltica-llane

You had me until this. If it isn’t apparent to Horde members after Ogrimmar that they got played like a fiddle by Sylvanas they really are eating-rocks dumb.

I was using his warped logic against him with justifying invasions and preventive attacks based in hollow reasons

@Etheldald-ragnaros

Hmm? i use canon lore from both the books tides of war and chronicles, that are more recent that the cata quest that, btw is a complete mess.

Considering how much has been retconned from both stories I would suggest you to take the lore from the game where it matters.

@Etheldald-ragnaros

And even with the examples you give is the same because the zandalari did attacked both horde and alliance. in cata and mop. with zul under rasthakan blessing.

Ok now I realize you didn’t watched any of the evidence I gave you and just went straight to reply me with your rhetoric again, not a surprise

@Etheldald-ragnaros

not sure why you choose to ignore it.

You are literally ignoring a piece of Lore narrated by Cho in how things happened

@Etheldald-ragnaros

oh i don’t think that they wanted to attack the alliance but they were going to give their fleet to the horde, like sylvanas says

And they kicked for a prolongued time where even Nathanos starts to complain that gaining their trust is hard

@Etheldald-ragnaros

They also helped the horde with storing the abyssal scepter in their vaults.

So? Dalaran teleported the magical bell to Darnassus despite the first mentioned was a neutral nation during the conflict and handling that mcgufin to the alliance would be considered a break of said stance in the real world but in warcraft universe it’s never treated as such thing which I guess it must apply to all the nations

@Etheldald-ragnaros

Nazgrim? the guy who betrayed the horde ?

Not a traitor, he followed his superior like a good soldier and still counts as a horde leader being killed by the alliance which the Horde hasn’t had that honor yet.

@Etheldald-ragnaros

if balance was important they should have destroyed it by third parties, now the balanced is broken and we need to strike back.

Strike back to what? Nobody in the alliance even cares to go to war in-universe with the exception of Genn and Tyrande and they are more interested in Sylvanas

@Etheldald-ragnaros

i am sorry, when the alliance killed a horde leader that left them leardeless?.

So for your happiness you need to kill Horde leaders in a raid? Not going to happen unless you are willing to sacrifice the Alliance roster too

@Etheldald-ragnaros

Funny, when an alliance member does something similar, horde players sees him/her as satan himself and blame the entire alliance.

Literally this has never happened as the writers takes great pains to make any alliance aggression to be justfied with making the Horde do something really nasty to keep “faction fantasy”

Heck Greymane was praised for both sides during Legion

@Etheldald-ragnaros

They never read the forums anyway, is not like it actually matters what we say.
they don’t seem to listen to feedback at all.

I am sorry but you are wrong in this statement
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/thank-you-for-backtracking-on-the-purge-squads-blizzard/46745

@Etheldald-ragnaros

i can separate real life from fiction, but i think that i know the type of players that both factions have.

You say this but in this same thread you also comment this:

@Etheldald-ragnaros

Horde players not only show 0 empathy but also mock about it and i am so tired of it, more reasons for me to think this way.
Maybe then they will learn how it feels.

And also you have a lot of historial of being toxic even without provocation, like in the thread you said you were quiting because Blizzard didn’t gave the Alliance the wins they wanted.

You can’t throw a rock to someone and pretend innocence, that is not how it works and frankly I can’t take the word of someone who lash his anger on other players because he can’t directly attack the writers that wrote a storyline that wasn’t on his liked.

Lots of people are in the same vein and decided to quit instead of just being annoying, harassing people at many fandom forums(Mmo champion)