VG247: So… not necessarily the last raid boss of the expansion? Johnny Cash: We make decisions depending on how things evolve. We have lots of ideas, but we also don’t want to set everything in stone one way or the other.
Naturally, they may be lying. However, if the Jailer is not the end boss then who? Sylvanas? A Void Lord or a Naaru to launch us into a Void vs Light expansion? Something totally out of the blue like one of these Eternal Ones?
It’s hard to predict who might be the end boss of SL if it isn’t the Jailer. BfA came out of nowhere after Legion. There is a lot of speculation, but that’s it right now.
I certainly hope we never kill an Eternal One. They literally created the universe. Everything. Killing one of them would just be bad and leave us as literal god killers, anything after that would feel like a stepdown. I also don’t buy a bunch of murder hobos being able to kill an ACTUAL god, not like a Titan or an Old God, but a true god.
Blizzard might have something ready to slap in, like Dragon Isles or AU Farahlon, if things go south or get stale. People might get tired of the dreary death stuff and “oi vey” lamentations.
I can understand why Blizz wouldn’t want to make commitments. They may also get ideas down the line about how to set up the next expac. They may decide to have a 9.4. Patch with a Raid totally outside of the Shadowlands. Sort of how the two Factions are united as they face Nyalotha, at the end of an Expac that was billed as the Faction War Expac.
Oh, I most certainly agree. But remember, we don’t have to actually kill an Eternal One, only beat him up enough for the fight to end. We didn’t kill Ra’den in ToT or Algalon in Ulduar. Heck, it could be a servant of the Eternal Ones ala Algalon.
Nozdormu being turned into Murozond somehow? I’m just tossing out ideas which is probably what Blizzard is still doing.
Good point. I truly believe the expansion after Shadowlands is going to have some kind of Azeroth update, so I wouldn’t be surprised if patch 9.3, or an added 9.4, has us return to Azeroth with some zones updated for some story development, and then the rest get updated with the release of the next expansion.
I just don’t see us staying in Shadowlands the whole time.
Between them regretting spoiling Garrosh as MoP’s final boss before the expansion went live, and initially going with Grom before they changed direction in WoD, I’d imagine they’d prefer to remain noncommittal about final boss announcements.
Just as a note, Eternal ones are the leaders of the core shadowlands realms, and comprise the “Pantheon of Death”. They are generally equal to the Titans in power.
What a couple of you all are thinking of are the First Ones, who at the very least built the Shadowlands, and likely had a hand in the entire Cosmos.
This is either just them trying to be vague and failing like with Teldrassil, or that the final boss won’t be just the Jailer. Something along the lines of him absorbing the Arbiter back into himself (assuming that theory is correct) and Zovaal as the entity he used to be is the final boss.
I wouldn’t look too far into it, they’re genuinely insistent that N’zoth was a surprise end boss in this interview, so I don’t think their perspective is all that accurate.
I mean…it wasn’t a surprise necessarily, but we didn’t know if it would be N’zoth for sure until 8.3 was being teased. I think most of the anti-Sylvanas types still thought Sylvanas was going to be the final raid boss for most of BfA.
I hope the final boss in Shadowlands is the true evil…the Winter Queen…I see you Winter Queen, shady af.
LMAO that picture. Honestly, I wouldn’t put it past Blizzard to make the Winter Queen evil. Do I think she is the “true evil”? No, but I wouldn’t be shocked if Blizzard made it where she has been corrupted by the Jailer and is doing bad stuff she normally wouldn’t be so we have to kill her.
Well in WoD they announced Au Grom as the last boss but made it Archimonde.
They already announced in an interview, with wowhead back in July, that the Jailer will the final boss for Shadowlands. So clearly the true final boss is going to be Archimonde.
Final boss will be the Dark First One (WoW-Morgoth) as he escapes this mysterious Sepulcher the Primus warns that the Jailer cannot be allowed to reach and that the Arbiter is the final key for.
Everyone acts like we know everything about eternal and old ones, when we literally know exactly zero things about them. It’s all speculation, and everyone who keeps saying that this and that is certainly true with respect to them is jumping the gun.
Unless he’s a dungeon boss, Denathrius is almost certainly a raid encounter.
Final boss could well be the Arbiter itself, if the goal is to remake the Shadowlands to put something better in its place. If it goes that way, likely the Primes (whatever they are, the covenant leaders) we like will help us as they actually care about their purpose, and the ones we don’t will get looted. Odds are Maldraxxus and Bastion get to stay, Winter Queen is sus so it could go either way.
He is the final boss of the first raid in Shadowlands.
If you are talking about him returning at some point, it is rare that a previous raid boss returns as another raid boss within the same expansion (at least as their own seperate boss both times). Gara’jal the spirit binder has his own encounter in MSV, but he is an unattackable enemy in the Council of Elders boss in ToT. I believe there hasn’t been raid boss to return as a raid boss in a future raid within the same expansion. I am excluding characters that had 2 separate encounters in the same raid, so I am not counting Deathwing [Spine and Madness], N’zoth [Carapace and himself] and Siegemaster Mar’tak [Hellfire Assault and Iron Reaver] in this, as that is cheating
tbh, WoD wasn’t the first time blizzard pulled the old switcheroo. Illidan was marketed as the final boss of Burning Crusade, however feeling that they released Black Temple too early, they went and plant some seeds for Sunwell with Kael’thas’s orb thingy (which came into the game in patch 2.1. Good thing no-one defeated Kael’thas prior to patch 2.1).
And Wrath as well. While the Lich King is the main antagonist of Wrath, he was not the final boss. Halion was. RS was released around 2 months after the Frostwing Halls & Frozen Throne wings were unlocked (stupid raid timegating).
