Ive been to harsh on PVP Devs, i can see your trying

Because no other class can periodically throw instant heals on themself whole never worrying about mana and having a damage reduction cd built on top of natural beef from tank runes.

You are a tank no matter how you spec who heals yourself while never going oom and even occasionally has the ability to pop off and one shot people

It’s not about riptide alone it’s everything about their survival combine is too much.

You don’t understand why people are upset because you are simply small-minded.

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No, but apparently you are too stupid to realize that not all shamans play the tank spec. There is a small group of us that are against the OPness of that spec and other versions from p2-p4. We have given ways to make shaman less OP (nerf’n burn for example). But the shaman hate is deep embedded into peoples minds. That we have to get a post like this one complaining about riptide still. LOL

Just gut the tank runes for pvp. And all you guys will find something else to cry about.

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Yes the tank shaman spec is op and people rightfully want it nerfed

You finally are starting to understand :+1:

ur high, people still whine cuz pally op or whatever that is, shaman can eat more nerfs tbh.

Nerfing pally bubble was super justified when they can 3 shot people with nukes

DMG reduction in bubble makes perfect sense in SoD

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3 shot PvP geared or PvE geared? That’s a massive difference in HP.

Shamans can deal insane consistent damage from 3 spells alone on ranged as well.
Boomies do the same and hunters are hunters for a reason.

Styls is unfortunately one of the dumbest people who regularly posts on these forums. Not worth the effort trying to talk sense into him.

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It doesn’t matter what shamans can do

They are op in their own ways and need nerfs

But DMG reduction in bubble still makes sense regardless of how op shamans are or ever were.

I’m trying to be objective about what I think is good for the game, not pick and choose which classes I like and want to see succeed.

I’ve never played the OP spec neither. I love Ele and have been Ele since day 1.

I had to park my Ele for a whole phase cuz they werent even a spec in phase 1. lol

y’all arguing about pallys and shaman… have you felt a double star fall, lol…

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What I like is the new T3 sets are undead only type. Keep OP set bonuses out of PVP.
The recent nerf to hunter killshot was quick, a little too quick and they should have disabled all t2.5 across the board to be fair.

They are trying to do things when specific abilities are completely broken, but the overall problem is much more massive and is the amount of damage being done compared to player health pools. PvP is so bursty that players don’t really get to interact with each other.

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They were just fine in p1, problem is you were still just as bad then as you are now. Not even rank 13, no epic PvP gear yet you wanna talk about shamans in PvP, BUM. No different than that Abralan BUM that just cries about warriors all day when he’s only rank 8. Musta spent too much time attacking target dummys on the PTR to actually get geared.

Nah PvE gear should matter in vanilla wow it is the way it goes. There is no rated PvP so outside of ranking PvP is for fun only. And in full PvE gear you are super squishy anyway. It is nice making hybrid PvE/PvP sets.

Boy, Im living rent free in ur head. Please tell us the name of ur main and class.

Yet another unoriginal BUM response you are living rent free on the forums. Talking about PvP when you cannot even get rank 13. It’s over for you.

ah yes, ranking is only the most heroic form of displaying skill in pvp. :cowboy_hat_face:

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Has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with gear.

You know whats funny Decepper. I play other toons that are r13+ and this guy is making a fool of himself. cuz he aint posting on his sod toon. I wonder why… lol

Only fool here is you. Trying to tell everyone how shamans are when you can’t even gear correctly. Same with that other fithelement BUM.

please lets duel online… lets see how far ur r14 gear will carry you. I have a r13 holy pally with no ret gear otherwise I would’ve challenge you on alliance side.

But, I bet you wont even tell us ur main. Probably on the pve server. lol

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